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I haven't been to a lot of shows but most that I have been to have an area where people sell everything from day old chickens up to mature stock. The only reason some people go to shows is to shop for stock to purchase and I know of several Cream Legbar Breeders that got stock in the form of...

I still go back to the down description in the UK standard from time to time, but keep seeing so much variation when people post chick photos, that I don't favor listing a certain down color any time soon. Guildlines on the head spots on the cockerel such as a concetrated spot being better than...

The flock on the Berkshire Downs was 150 layers strong. It was owned A.C McKim and and started by a purchase of hatching eggs in 1948. This photo was taken around 1952 and appeared in both the 1953 and 1959 annual publication of the Autosexing Poultry Association of Great Britain. The 1947...

There are lot so new people working with Cream Legbars (starting in the UK and spreading from there). The color of the Cream Legbar is unique in the chickens world. I have seen a Cream Crele Leghorn photo from the netherlands, but there really isn't a common knowledge in the poultry world of...

It has been quite a while since I read this book myself, but it at the time it seemed to me that if you had a good head in all 4 areas that you had the potential for a 300 egg layer, and for every area that you were poor in your hen's laying potential dropped by about 60 eggs. I used head...

That appears to be a typo. Krys got her Cream Legbars from David Francis. David Francis was one of the first people to get Cream Legbars from David Applegarth. In the UK they DO have a "cream" Leghorn. Their standard calls it a Yellow Partidge Leghorn, but as far as I know neither Francis...

R.G. Punnett Isolated the Cream Gene into Brown Leghorns at the end of his formal research of the cream gene in the 1940's. In his publication in the Journal of Genetics on Cream Plumage he called these birds Brown Leghorns with a cream ground color, but they had crest and laid blue eggs so...

David Applegarth's foundation stock was: - Two Cream Legbar Pullets that he hatched in 1987 - A Cream Legbar cockerel that he sourced in January of 1988 and - A Cream x Gold Legbar cockerel that he sourced in January of 1988. He tried breeding the Cream Cockerel to the Cream pullets but...

I talked to Ernie Haire at the Texas State Fair. He showed me his Wheaten Marans that were being exhibited. He brought a Light Wheaten, a dark Wheaten, and a Medium wheaten. He said that the Marans breeders didn't settle on an "idea" before they submitted the variety for APA approval so now...

Oh...There also is a pair of Wernalas Collection Cream Legbars in an article by Sue Hammon in the April 2003 edition of Country Smallholding Magazine and some cream legbar hens credited to Lynne Jackson (hmm? I don't know who that is) in an article by David Scrivenger Country Smallholding Magazine.

You can probably send a request to the Fancy Fowl Magazine. They may even be able to get you a better quality photo. :-) You many be able to post the photo with a credit to the Fancy Fowl Magazine too since they appear to have their magazine on-line.

I don't think that Krys has any photos of early 1990's Cream Legbars. There however is a photo in the June 1988 printing of "Fancy Fowl" of a pair a cream legbars that are credited to David Applegarth. Note: When I started to research the Cream Legbar breed to do my own recreation before the...

I am enjoying catching up on the thread. Great points on type, color, etc. My understanding is that the main problem with calling the Legbar "Leghorn type" is the differences between the English and the APA leghorn standards. As FMP stated the biggest being the back (downward sloping rather...

Sol2go, I agree with you on the longer legs. I wish I had put my 2-1/2 year cockbird on the scale when I had the chance. I think he must have put on another pound from when he was a mere 18 months old. The 5 points was discussed briefly by the Cream Legbar working group. FMP wanted the...

SSC worked on keeping straight combs on her boys. She was really hesitant to keep the cockerel she hatch from Emily DeGrey's line in 2011 because the comb was so floppy. She had one that she sent me photos of in the Spring of 2013 that had a really straight comb that she was growing out. SSC...

1) SSC doesn't have any cockerels. She sold the estate after her mother died a year ago had plans to traveling the world. When she was sending me photos of her flock back in 2012 she asked if they looked Silver to me. I told her they did and she said that she was culling anything that was too...

Yes...we have been advised by multiple people that the standard for cream would have been better if they would have used the gold standard as the starting point an NOT the silver standard. Nice catch on the barring on the saddle. It does bring a good point for discussion on the cream variety...

I think that it might be hard to get Judges on board with mis-matched colors. Some already indicated that they are having a hard time wrapping their brain around a single combed breed with a crest because they only time they have seen that combination is on backyard mixes. I think that there...

Also...I looked up the Gold Legbars standard (available HERE on page 54) and both the neck hackles and saddles are described as "Pale Straw" for the Gold Legbars. I also looked up photos of the Old English Game Bantams and those Crele birds also have matching saddles and hackles although they...

What Chickat posted was and very early draft of the cockerel. Here are the final versions that were released to the Cream Legbar Club. With out seeing the original images I started with you may not be able to appreciated how much "idealization" was done. Looking at the early draft of the...