Alright, I have a bit of time to chat. Thanks for all the opinions. Here is what I have come up with: First, the Broncos were terrible today. This is a sad thing in my home. Second, I believe Banshee is androgynous. Like Pat from SNL. As a younger turkey, he was bigger than Tomahawk, had thicker legs, was more aggressive. When Dinner was around, especially once he started displaying and strutting ALL DAY LONG, Banshee jumped ship and stopped hanging out with him. Tomahawk stayed. Banshee started wandering a lot once Tomahawk showed her alliance. I have never heard Banshee call the same way hens do. He is talkative and makes all the cute sounds, but not the hen call. Not the gobble either. I played gobbles this afternoon, and Banshee got all red, his snood grew quite a bit (still not past his beak) and was very interested in my phone. Not displaying per se, but poofing up a bit. I dunno. I know for certain (without the proof of an egg) that Tomahawk 2 is a hen. White edging on the chest feathers. And she cries like a girl. Not to be mean, but she does. My daughter cries a lot too. I don't remember ever crying so much. Unless it is in regards to turkeys not hatching, being the wrong sex, etc. I have run the calculator with Penguin over Banshee, just in case. I will get slates and blacks. I am okay with this... Just letting you know Ralph. I hear your DW has threatened the life of Penguin. I have also informed my DH that if Banshee is a hen, I am most certainly hitting Ralph up again and forcing one of my dang birds to hatch eggs. Since he (my DH) can't be trusted with the incubator. Without going back a few pages, I can't remember who lost their hen because of a prolapsed vent. I'm so sorry! Even though they are livestock and serve a purpose, they worm their way into our hearts and losing one is never easy. We buried Cricket earlier today. We had to cull a hen a month or so ago because of the dog attack, she didn't get buried. She became fox bait. Still haven't captured that dang thing. Or anything other than the raccoon... Ralph, lucky that weasel ended up in the trap that malfunctioned.