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Belgian Bearded Mille Fleur d'Uccles? PICS pg 7
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You're talking a little aggressively. I really dont want to turn it into an argument but I will leave it at this....you are right in that they can have "small" wattles but it should be discouraged.
You're talking a little aggressively. I really dont want to turn it into an argument but I will leave it at this....you are right in that they can have "small" wattles but it should be discouraged.
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This is the copy and paste version...I have no idea why the link is not working. Maybe somebody else on here can back me up on the wattle issue lol....
The Belgian dUccle Bantam was bred for the first time in the small municipality
of Uccle at the southeast border of Brussels, Belgium by Michel Van Gelder,
sometime between 1890 and 1900.
The d in front of dUccle means from or of (Uccle). If you happen to be in
Belgium, the 'd' is dropped, and they are simply referred to as 'Uccles'. Most
authors believe that the Belgian dUccle Bantam is a cross between the Dutch
Booted Sabelpoot Bantam and the Antwerp Bearded Bantam, but this fact is
not known for sure. Mr. Van Gelder traveled to many English and German
poultry shows and the chance remains that some breeding material could have
originated from either country. The Dutch Booted Sabelpoot Bantam actually
originated from somewhere in Asia and is believed to contain some Japanese
Bantam blood. So the d'Uccle has both Asian and Belgian roots.
The first varieties of Belgian dUccles were the Mille Fleur, Porcelain, and
White, but the Mille Fleur was the first variety entered into the American Poultry
Association's Standards of Perfection in 1914. This was thirty-five years after the
entrance of the Booted Bantam (a distinctly different breed from the Belgian
d'Uccle). I mention this because sometimes the Booted Bantam and the Belgian
d'Uccle are confused with one another.
I have attended poultry shows where a Booted Bantam has been entered as
a Belgian dUccle (and at least one actually won the class). Under the
standards, and as I understand it from the Belgian dUccle and Booted Bantam
Club, these birds should have been disqualified as entered into the wrong class.
To the average fancier who does not breed or show Booteds or Belgian
dUccles, the differences between the two may not be significant. But to a
Belgian breeder of Belgian dUccles, and to the Belgian dUccle and Booted
Bantam Club, the differences are very distinct. The most obvious difference is
that the Booted Bantam has no beard or muffs, and has wattles instead. The
Belgian dUccle has very small or non-existent wattles with a full beard and
muffs. The feathered 'muffs' at each cheek help to create the pretty little face
that is characteristic of the d'Uccle hen. The Belgian dUccle is also smaller than
the Booted because it was bred, in part, from the Antwerp. The Belgian dUccle
should be shorter with a broader breast and a bull neck.
The subtlest of the differences between the two breeds is in the topline. The
Booted should have a longer back with a topline in the shape of a U, and the
Belgian dUccle should have a topline in the shape of a V. Both breeds have a
higher tail carriage than most other breeds and have feathered feet and welldeveloped
vulture hocks.
The first link didn't work
This is the copy and paste version...I have no idea why the link is not working. Maybe somebody else on here can back me up on the wattle issue lol....
The Belgian dUccle Bantam was bred for the first time in the small municipality
of Uccle at the southeast border of Brussels, Belgium by Michel Van Gelder,
sometime between 1890 and 1900.
The d in front of dUccle means from or of (Uccle). If you happen to be in
Belgium, the 'd' is dropped, and they are simply referred to as 'Uccles'. Most
authors believe that the Belgian dUccle Bantam is a cross between the Dutch
Booted Sabelpoot Bantam and the Antwerp Bearded Bantam, but this fact is
not known for sure. Mr. Van Gelder traveled to many English and German
poultry shows and the chance remains that some breeding material could have
originated from either country. The Dutch Booted Sabelpoot Bantam actually
originated from somewhere in Asia and is believed to contain some Japanese
Bantam blood. So the d'Uccle has both Asian and Belgian roots.
The first varieties of Belgian dUccles were the Mille Fleur, Porcelain, and
White, but the Mille Fleur was the first variety entered into the American Poultry
Association's Standards of Perfection in 1914. This was thirty-five years after the
entrance of the Booted Bantam (a distinctly different breed from the Belgian
d'Uccle). I mention this because sometimes the Booted Bantam and the Belgian
d'Uccle are confused with one another.
I have attended poultry shows where a Booted Bantam has been entered as
a Belgian dUccle (and at least one actually won the class). Under the
standards, and as I understand it from the Belgian dUccle and Booted Bantam
Club, these birds should have been disqualified as entered into the wrong class.
To the average fancier who does not breed or show Booteds or Belgian
dUccles, the differences between the two may not be significant. But to a
Belgian breeder of Belgian dUccles, and to the Belgian dUccle and Booted
Bantam Club, the differences are very distinct. The most obvious difference is
that the Booted Bantam has no beard or muffs, and has wattles instead. The
Belgian dUccle has very small or non-existent wattles with a full beard and
muffs. The feathered 'muffs' at each cheek help to create the pretty little face
that is characteristic of the d'Uccle hen. The Belgian dUccle is also smaller than
the Booted because it was bred, in part, from the Antwerp. The Belgian dUccle
should be shorter with a broader breast and a bull neck.
The subtlest of the differences between the two breeds is in the topline. The
Booted should have a longer back with a topline in the shape of a U, and the
Belgian dUccle should have a topline in the shape of a V. Both breeds have a
higher tail carriage than most other breeds and have feathered feet and welldeveloped
vulture hocks.
Fascinating discussion. This site also talks about the difference between the two breeds and the wattle difference.
http://www.belgianduccle.org/page8.html
http://www.belgianduccle.org/page8.html
the thing is its not just the wattles that make the bird, the color and pattern is what makes or breaks your bird in the show ring I've seen birds with wattles take the blue over birds without wattles just because of the color and stance, wattles are not the big key your color is
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So I never got an answer to my Q....
So I never got an answer to my Q....
Im not an expert but I do know that if they have 2 white feathers on their bodies, then that is a disqualification. Not to say you couldnt just pluck them out but that would be dishonest. Maybe an expert will step in and give you an honest answer
She does have a nice beard. Wait that doesnt sound right..
I don't think she has any all-white feathers. and if she did I would pluck them! LOL..... JK..I wouldn't because I prolly will never show her.
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The thing I read said if they have 2 all-white feathers in the same part of their body, so that means to me that if they have 1 white in their tail, and 1 white in their wing, and 1 white in their body, then they are okay. Or did I read that wrong?
The thing I read said if they have 2 all-white feathers in the same part of their body, so that means to me that if they have 1 white in their tail, and 1 white in their wing, and 1 white in their body, then they are okay. Or did I read that wrong?
Oh Good point Shelley! It does say 2 white feathers in any one section, thanks for bringing that up.
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