BYC Genetic/Breed Calculator Huge Task Ahead!

[The Moonshiner]

I don't know him but okay

Pssst.... Act cool man. We're in the company of royalty.
He's the guy that created that other chicken calculator.

 

[Cyprus]

Pssst.... Act cool man. We're in the company of royalty.
He's the guy that created that other chicken calculator.

Kippenjungle?
I appreciate that enjin a lot. That is the enjin I was using to try to make my own but I didn't quite understand how to do it.
I could have used more explanation of how to code with the template. It was really difficult for me to work out on my own.

@Henk69 I really enjoyed reading and using your program. Especially in Norwegian.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Kippenjungle?
I appreciate that enjin a lot. That is the enjin I was using to try to make my own but I didn't quite understand how to do it.
I could have used more explanation of how to code with the template. It was really difficult for me to work out on my own.

@Henk69 I really enjoyed reading and using your program. Especially in Norwegian.

D@mn it man. I said act cool. That ain't acting cool.
Just put on your straight face and introduce yourself.

 

[Cyprus]

D@mn it man. I said act cool. That ain't acting cool.
Just put on your straight face and introduce yourself.

What is cool? I'm hot I kid, I kid
I digress. Call me Cyprus.

 

[MROO]

Hi Guys,

This thread started a bit harsh but meanwhile I get a good vibe from you.
I got some complaints from the Poultry Geneticists Society about the calculator. Maybe stop calling them hours at a time
I have been thinking about a new version of the chicken calculator and if I were you I would work with overlaying pictures. For that you would need a base picture with every feather outlined. That the main thing that kept me from doing it.
I would be interested to help. I am a coder and I have the genetic engine, and a bit of knowledge. I read english.
I read a comment about Alexa and Google assistant somewhere. I happen to do a project at the moment

It sounds like what you are looking for is a geographic information system - or GIS, for short. GIS began as a bunch of hand-drawn maps (of Maryland's Green Spring Valley) that were registered to each other and could be physically overlain with each other in any combination. Modern applications use a series of computer generated maps to do the same thing. Local and State agencies use them to overlay things like land use data, zoning densities, water and sewer lines and natural features to analyze and project information about the land. I've also seen GIS used for business applications, like laying out climate and rainfall needs for plants for a commercial nursery.

Hypothetically - and this is grossly simplified, but - If your digital "base map" was a detailed chicken and the data-point addresses linked to your genetic decision rules, it would work like the GIS planning maps many of the states use, now. Once the base data and equations are programmed in, all you would need (again, gross understatement!) is an input data sheet on each type or breed you want to cross. Running the info through the decision rule database would create your new trait combinations linked back to the "chicken map" and Voila! a new chicken!

I know this sounds far-fetched, but I worked with this technology some 20 years ago, so I know it works. We overlaid development, zoning, water & sewer plans onto satellite pictures to project what the landscape could look like in the not-so-distant future. The concept worked for land use planning and the nursery. It just might work for this project, too.

 

[Henk69]

It sounds like what you are looking for is a geographic information system - or GIS, for short. GIS began as a bunch of hand-drawn maps (of Maryland's Green Spring Valley) that were registered to each other and could be physically overlain with each other in any combination. Modern applications use a series of computer generated maps to do the same thing. Local and State agencies use them to overlay things like land use data, zoning densities, water and sewer lines and natural features to analyze and project information about the land. I've also seen GIS used for business applications, like laying out climate and rainfall needs for plants for a commercial nursery.

Hypothetically - and this is grossly simplified, but - If your digital "base map" was a detailed chicken and the data-point addresses linked to your genetic decision rules, it would work like the GIS planning maps many of the states use, now. Once the base data and equations are programmed in, all you would need (again, gross understatement!) is an input data sheet on each type or breed you want to cross. Running the info through the decision rule database would create your new trait combinations linked back to the "chicken map" and Voila! a new chicken!

I know this sounds far-fetched, but I worked with this technology some 20 years ago, so I know it works. We overlaid development, zoning, water & sewer plans onto satellite pictures to project what the landscape could look like in the not-so-distant future. The concept worked for land use planning and the nursery. It just might work for this project, too.

Wow! who has the coordinates of each feather?

 

[Amer]

Pssst.... Act cool man. We're in the company of royalty.
He's the guy that created that other chicken calculator.

I know right!
I'm a little bit unsure of what to say right now. So inexperienced and stuff.


The one thing I really couldn't figure out from genetics is pumpkin. Is it a dilution of black? What would it look like on a black base? Does it count as the ginger dilution of black like the O gene in cats, or is the O gene in cats not actually a ginger dilution of black at all?
And the complexity of egg color genetics. @Rose Quartz

 

[Amer]

It sounds like what you are looking for is a geographic information system - or GIS, for short. GIS began as a bunch of hand-drawn maps (of Maryland's Green Spring Valley) that were registered to each other and could be physically overlain with each other in any combination. Modern applications use a series of computer generated maps to do the same thing. Local and State agencies use them to overlay things like land use data, zoning densities, water and sewer lines and natural features to analyze and project information about the land. I've also seen GIS used for business applications, like laying out climate and rainfall needs for plants for a commercial nursery.

Hypothetically - and this is grossly simplified, but - If your digital "base map" was a detailed chicken and the data-point addresses linked to your genetic decision rules, it would work like the GIS planning maps many of the states use, now. Once the base data and equations are programmed in, all you would need (again, gross understatement!) is an input data sheet on each type or breed you want to cross. Running the info through the decision rule database would create your new trait combinations linked back to the "chicken map" and Voila! a new chicken!

I know this sounds far-fetched, but I worked with this technology some 20 years ago, so I know it works. We overlaid development, zoning, water & sewer plans onto satellite pictures to project what the landscape could look like in the not-so-distant future. The concept worked for land use planning and the nursery. It just might work for this project, too.

That seems pretty complicated, but sounds pretty cool.
Do you have an example.


Also @Henk69 I am a big fan of the cat calculator. Did you create that as well?

 

[sylviethecochin]

Hi Guys,

This thread started a bit harsh but meanwhile I get a good vibe from you.
I got some complaints from the Poultry Geneticists Society about the calculator. Maybe stop calling them hours at a time
I have been thinking about a new version of the chicken calculator and if I were you I would work with overlaying pictures. For that you would need a base picture with every feather outlined. That the main thing that kept me from doing it.
I would be interested to help. I am a coder and I have the genetic engine, and a bit of knowledge. I read english.
I read a comment about Alexa and Google assistant somewhere. I happen to do a project at the moment

First of all, I'm a huge fan of your work. Thank you.

Ahem. [Translation: Just erased half a page of babbling.]

Secondly, if someone with a working pc could get a good side-picture off a silver-laced Wyandotte hen (or even a good blue bird with nice lacing) and modify it in paint.net or a similar program, could that be used as a base image? I'm thinking most of the significant feathers would be outlined already, with minimal effort. All we would really have to do is convert it to a line image...

(edt: And outline the neck feathers. Obviously. And roosters would be a bit more work as well, due to hackle feathers. But still.)

Please correct me if I'm completely off track.

 

[Cyprus]

First of all, I'm a huge fan of your work. Thank you.

Ahem. [Translation: Just erased half a page of babbling.]

Secondly, if someone with a working pc could get a good side-picture off a silver-laced Wyandotte hen (or even a good blue bird with nice lacing) and modify it in paint.net or a similar program, could that be used as a base image? I'm thinking most of the significant feathers would be outlined already, with minimal effort. All we would really have to do is convert it to a line image...

(edt: And outline the neck feathers. Obviously. And roosters would be a bit more work as well, due to hackle feathers. But still.)

Please correct me if I'm completely off track.

How is this picture that I took?