BYC Genetic/Breed Calculator Huge Task Ahead!

[Cyprus]

What?

When being D'Uccles the goal is a 'Vermillion' ground color.

 

[Amer]

When being D'Uccles the goal is a 'Vermillion' ground color.

Ground color is the red feathers, not the typically black feathers that Roosters was pointing out.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

It's the typical buff of D'Uccles.
It is called Vermilion.

Oh, thanks!

Actually, most hatchery d'Uccles roos I've seen have it.

When being D'Uccles the goal is a 'Vermillion' ground color.

He's a mille fleur d'uccle X buff mottled serama, so that's probably why he has that coloring.

 

[Cyprus]

Oh, thanks!


He's a mille fleur d'uccle X buff mottled serama, so that's probably why he has that coloring.

Yup. Buff and buff and mottled and mottled.
Buff mottled makes sense and with D'Uccles having the darker influence, so would he.

 

[Amer]

Oh, thanks!


He's a mille fleur d'uccle X buff mottled serama, so that's probably why he has that coloring.

Oh that makes sense. Buff and black usually make weird reddish tones on a black bird.

 

[MROO]

That seems pretty complicated, but sounds pretty cool.
Do you have an example.


Also @Henk69 I am a big fan of the cat calculator. Did you create that as well?

It's been a long time, so all of my info is obsolete and technology has improved immensely, but hopefully this will explain it better.

Picture a bunch of maps of the same area, all drawn to matched scale and printed on clear acetate. Each map has a single type of information tied to it. If you stack two of them on top of each other, you create new, smaller areas. You now have a combined map showing overlapping areas (or traits) that can be evaluated in relation to each other.

Now, instead of using acetates, picture the individual maps as computer-drawn images. Instead of just laying the two maps over top of each other, a GIS system actually integrates them into a new map showing the combined data. Each new polygon has its' own unique ID number, but shows the ID of the original areas from each of the parent maps, allowing users to link back to both original data sets.

By evaluating where certain characteristics overlap, users can not only identify where things are different, but manipulate the information in a database format. For the calculator, this would include determining which genetic trait is dominant in a database format. As long as the unique ID number is retained, the information can then be linked back to the base image - providing a "map" of the new chicken. It can also be combined with another base map to create a whole new set of data.

In short (even though absolutely NOTHING about this process is truly "short!") a GIS would allow you to take the genetic relationships you are currently coding and link them back to a visual image. I don't know if this is feasible or not, but that's the way my cartographer's mind works. I may be way over-thinking this and making the job more difficult than it already is ... but it's worth throwing out there to consider, even if I'm just tilting at windmills!

 

[Henk69]

That seems pretty complicated, but sounds pretty cool.
Do you have an example.


Also @Henk69 I am a big fan of the cat calculator. Did you create that as well?

Yes, but that one is a bit outdated, and I stole the pictures.

 

[Henk69]

First of all, I'm a huge fan of your work. Thank you.

Ahem. [Translation: Just erased half a page of babbling.]

Secondly, if someone with a working pc could get a good side-picture off a silver-laced Wyandotte hen (or even a good blue bird with nice lacing) and modify it in paint.net or a similar program, could that be used as a base image? I'm thinking most of the significant feathers would be outlined already, with minimal effort. All we would really have to do is convert it to a line image...

(edt: And outline the neck feathers. Obviously. And roosters would be a bit more work as well, due to hackle feathers. But still.)

Please correct me if I'm completely off track.

Yes, I considered a wyandotte hen as well. Most difficult would be the breast not looking like fish scales.

 

[Henk69]

How is this picture that I took?
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She would have to show more breast. And also I realize now that a wyandotte does not have visible main tailfeathers

 

[Henk69]

The mutation responsible for pumpkin is an incomplete dominant columbian like restrictor or henny coloring factor and a recessive eumelanin diluter (black to moderate chocolate/brown). My animals are on silver, but it probably dilutes pheomelanin as well. A homozygous e+ cockerel would look like a henny colored wheaten, a heterozygous one like a ginger. On black base (eg birchen) the mutation would turn the solid eumelanin into a stipply quality (think wildtype hen's back). With melanizers you would get a black outer lace. Homozygotes would resemble sebrights somewhat (more groundcolor). Shank color would be white or yellow depending on the underlying skincolor in homozygotes.