Chickens tongue keeps almost going down her throat

[OwO]

OK so update today: I didn't use Miconazole last night or this morning, and she has not seemed itchy once so far !! Only problem is that means I'll have to find another way to deal with her suspected favus, might go back to Clotrimazole, or find some Metronidazole. She is eating her food at her own pace now which is amazing as I'm usually there for two hours scratching her head for her and making sure she eats it.

Decided to order vitamin E online, should be coming at midday tomorrow. Managed to get the 1000iu type. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GY76AW Hoping that is going to work.

Ideally, getting some cultures ran would be best to see if the problem is bacterial, fungal, protozoal, etc.

Looking back at some of the photos you have posted in the past threads she's had that crusty/scabby skin going on for a good while, not just on her face, but on her body too (right?).
This is most puzzling, I think @azygous may want to go to your profile page and look at the images as well and give her thoughts on those images. I have to wonder if she may just benefit from bathing in a dandruff shampoo but may be going in the wrong direction.

Ear Canker still really comes to mind. My understanding is that Ear Canker can be bacterial, fungal or protozoal - so we are back to figuring that out - so this is where the culture would really help so we don't continue in circles.

I would "assume" the Amoxicillin would have treated bacterial ear infection, but that's also dependent on if the bacteria are responsive to Amoxicillin. You've also been applying Clotrimazole which has helped, so there's likely a fungal component or it may just be that the cream is soothing and healing the skin (coincidental?). That leaves protozoal.(?) Big questions and I don't have the answers, I'm surely no vet.

I understand if having more testing is not possible, we all have to be mindful of our budgets and of course some vets are better than others.
If the testing isn't possible, then you can try the Ivermectin and/or Metronidazole to see if either of those make a difference. Sort of trial and error or throw everything you have at the problem and see what happens.

Thank you so much once again. It is true that there is flakiness all over her body, though it's hard to tell if it's just dry skin or something as she is not able to preen due to her wry neck. I found this thread the other day:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/favus-something-else-fungal.1475720/

Coco's skin looks pretty much exactly the same as that, albeit with more feathers. I guess I should describe it as crusty rather than scabby. The chicken in that thread also had gunk in her ears.

Next time I go to the vet I will definitely get them to do a test. I think I am going to wait for the vitamin E to arrive, and if nothing changes by next weekend I will book an appointment. She already seems a lot better just by the fact she isn't itching so much

 

[azygous]

It just occurred to me these itchy, flaky symptoms can be from feather mites. It degrades the feathers, too, resulting in thin, "thread bare" appearance. A bad case can make a chicken scratch all the time. The treatment is simple. Ivermectin. It wouldn't hurt to try it.

 

[OwO]

It just occurred to me these itchy, flaky symptoms can be from feather mites. It degrades the feathers, too, resulting in thin, "thread bare" appearance. A bad case can make a chicken scratch all the time. The treatment is simple. Ivermectin. It wouldn't hurt to try it.

Just found their ivermectin and it's still in date, is it definitely okay to use it while she is having flubenvet pellets?

 

[azygous]

No, I wouldn't.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

OK so update today: I didn't use Miconazole last night or this morning, and she has not seemed itchy once so far !! Only problem is that means I'll have to find another way to deal with her suspected favus, might go back to Clotrimazole, or find some Metronidazole. She is eating her food at her own pace now which is amazing as I'm usually there for two hours scratching her head for her and making sure she eats it.

Decided to order vitamin E online, should be coming at midday tomorrow. Managed to get the 1000iu type. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GY76AW Hoping that is going to work.



Thank you so much once again. It is true that there is flakiness all over her body, though it's hard to tell if it's just dry skin or something as she is not able to preen due to her wry neck. I found this thread the other day:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/favus-something-else-fungal.1475720/

Coco's skin looks pretty much exactly the same as that, albeit with more feathers. I guess I should describe it as crusty rather than scabby. The chicken in that thread also had gunk in her ears.

Next time I go to the vet I will definitely get them to do a test. I think I am going to wait for the vitamin E to arrive, and if nothing changes by next weekend I will book an appointment. She already seems a lot better just by the fact she isn't itching so much

Just found their ivermectin and it's still in date, is it definitely okay to use it while she is having flubenvet pellets?

Right, I was thinking along the line of something like scabies, face mites, etc., so Ivermectin may be helpful. I'd finish the Flubendazole (Flubenvet) then give the Ivermectin. Afik, there aren't any contraindications between the 2 but to err on the side of caution, finish one then do the other.
Do you have Pour On or Injectable Ivermectin?

Interesting she's not as itchy since you withheld the Miconazole. I'd see how she does without any ointment for a couple of days.

 

[OwO]

Right, I was thinking along the line of something like scabies, face mites, etc., so Ivermectin may be helpful. I'd finish the Flubendazole (Flubenvet) then give the Ivermectin. Afik, there aren't any contraindications between the 2 but to err on the side of caution, finish one then do the other.
Do you have Pour On or Injectable Ivermectin?

Interesting she's not as itchy since you withheld the Miconazole. I'd see how she does without any ointment for a couple of days.

Thanks, it's pour on Ivermectin. I have one more day left of flubenvet then I'll probably give it another day just to be sure and start on the Ivermectin.

I have been putting Clotrimazole back on and she still seems a lot less itchy but she is still itching a little bit, and her skin appears to have a much better colour than in the video that I posted. I also started giving her boiled egg and gave her a Vitamin E tablet today. Hoping this is going to start making a difference!

 

[OwO]

@azygous hey, I noticed in another thread you mentioned that very smelly poo can be a sign of oviduct obstruction. Coco's poops look normal most of the time but really smell abnormally horrible, and I haven't seen a cecal poo since she's been inside. Is this likely to be a blockage? I haven't seen her drink water in a while, but I just assumed it's because I was mixing her pellets with water and that was hydrating her... I can't find much info about it online

 

[azygous]

Yes, it's a sign of blockage. The smell is more on the acrid side than the regular sulfur smell. Cecal poop will be conspicuously absent. When the blockage clears, you will see cecals again. And poop returns to normal almost immediately.

If she isn't drinking you need to syringe it into her because with the ceca blocked, her tissues aren't getting the normal hydration they supply.

 

[OwO]

Yes, it's a sign of blockage. The smell is more on the acrid side than the regular sulfur smell. Cecal poop will be conspicuously absent. When the blockage clears, you will see cecals again. And poop returns to normal almost immediately.

If she isn't drinking you need to syringe it into her because with the ceca blocked, her tissues aren't getting the normal hydration they supply.

Thanks for letting me know, it seems like she is drinking actually when I checked today which is good. Do you know if there is a way to help clear the blockage? Or is there a name for this condition so I can research more about it? Thanks again

 

[Wyorp Rock]

How is she doing?