Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

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Why bother get the shot?

What would be the benefits?
I do not have a medical education and in no case can I be an authoritative source on such issues. Be that as it may, the meaning of vaccinations, as I understand it, is that a strongly weakened strain of a certain disease is introduced into the body, which subsequently gives a person some advantage.
At least judging by the locals (I'm only talking about Russian territory, I've never been to any foreign hospital in my life, and in Russian, to be honest, I was only many years ago when I worked in catering, it was supposed to to do some kind of vaccinations, though I didn’t think to ask what and from what diseases, they just injected them into me and that’s it. Before that, I was still in the hospital, but it was only an examination that is carried out for those who can go to serve in the army. It is carried out so that the seriously ill are not taken to the service, because they are weak and will not be able to serve normally).
So, if i take a local (I have no idea what happens in this respect abroad) vaccination against, for example, stomatitis - it is quite effective, because everyone who did it, swimming in dirty water (ponds, rivers) with broken knees and other small bloody wounds - did not die and did not hurt. At the same time, in the same cases, the child, having accidentally broken his knee, subsequently died of tetanus in the hospital, and the doctors could not save him.
There is also a whole bunch of very unpleasant and dangerous diseases, completely cut off by timely (in advance) vaccination.

As for covid, I can’t say anything here. There is no long-term experience in the use of such vaccinations in the world yet. Yes, I do not have medical knowledge (I repeat, I am not a doctor), and it is difficult for me to judge this from a scientific point of view.

So, from outside experience ... My deceased neighbor was not vaccinated, he died. But a timely vaccination would have helped him - I do not know.
If i take famous people here, there is a certain Putin who defiantly made himself vaccinated. His work, as I understand it, is connected with active communication with people and traveling around the country - i.e. he is clearly more likely to contract covid than me, who sits in the forest and communicates more with geese and goats than with people)) Be that as it may, it is quite clear that Putin is alive and not sick. From this we can draw some cautious conclusions that either the vaccine is more or less effective, or he is just the same as me and does not get sick for some reason.

If i try to think logically, then it is extremely unlikely that the state would like to get rid of taxpayers by releasing some kind of poisonous, harmful vaccine. In Russia, they are generally very concerned about the lack of population and in every way promote families with a large number of children, then they strongly prohibit tobacco in public places, alcohol, and for soft drugs they can even get a very long prison term, and even with the confiscation of all property. It got to the point that we have become a pronouncedly homophobic state only because same-sex couples cannot reproduce (have children), and therefore they have been oppressed here in every possible way. And for those who give birth, for no apparent reason, they began to pay considerable amounts of money. Well, that is, not for work, but just like that, here someone gave birth to a child, so he is given some kind of "maternity capital". Frankly, this amount exceeds the amount that I will earn in a whole year if I get a job (I am a lazy person and do not work some years yet).

In general, I can assume that the vaccine still provides some advantage. However, there is one nuance - in some people the body is so weakened (advanced age, poor-quality and insufficient food, bad habits, bad ecology, etc.) that it is even dangerous for him to administer a vaccine. And a full-fledged virus can completely kill him.
My deceased neighbor was a good man, but he was of advanced age, and often drank alcohol, in addition, he had harmful, hard work in the city. Perhaps this was one of the key factors due to which his body could not stand the disease.
But. I repeat, I am not a doctor at all, and I can only voice absolutely unscientific conjectures. I'm not going to claim anything with responsibility.

Personally for myself, I decided that I would give up on everything and leave everything in the hands of the state. The state has doctors, scientists - so let them think for me on this issue. When there was a vaccination, I could not come, I was very overwhelmed with housework, and now it has been canceled and left at will. And I confess I don't know. On the one hand, I have nothing against being vaccinated, on the other, I am unbearably lazy to go there, if only because for this I will have to walk 10 kilometers through the forest, since I sold the car many years ago (and if i go along the highway then it will be 27 km). It is possible, however, to hire a taxi, but I do not want to pay for a taxi at all.

Such is my careless attitude towards vaccination. When I finally get to the hospital - I will most likely get vaccinated, but for now I do not have the opportunity. Another vaccine that I would obviously like to inject is the rabies vaccine, since there are a lot of wild foxes in the local forest. It turned out a strange situation - I inject my dog with a rabies vaccine received from a veterinarian, and for some reason I am too lazy to get a rabies vaccine for myself, because it is closer and easier for me to get to the veterinarian than to the doctor. Once it got ridiculous, once I was bitten to the blood by a dog, and I was treated not by a doctor, but by a veterinarian. What kind of covid vaccine is there if I'm probably a little crazy.
In other words, this story was simple - the dog received a severe cut on the roofing iron, which I did not think to remove, and I had to urgently put this dog in a taxi and take it to the veterinarian for an operation. Everything worked out, but the dog basically didn’t want to get into a taxi, and when I pushed it, it bit my hands until it bled. I went to the veterinarian, and one veterinarian performed an operation on the dog, and the second veterinarian turned around my hands, from which blood flowed no less than from a wounded dog.
The dog made a full recovery. Well, so do I. Lol.
 
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I never contracted Covid despite many of my friends dying from it. Of those who died only one was vaccinated all the rest were unvaccinated. She was a morbidly obese, diabetic, alcoholic senior. I think working in the veterinary profession prepared my immune system for all types of infections. Having worked with many, many parvo and corona canine patients must have given me some sort of cross-immunity. During the crisis, I donated my blood for research purposes to hopefully allow scientist to better understand the how and why of treating Covid.
 
Remember what we were told?
  • Safe and effective (95%!!!)
  • Take the shot, you won't get Covid
  • Take the shot to prevent giving Covid to Grandma
  • Take the shot...you might still get Covid, but it won't be as bad
  • J&J: once and you're done
  • Oops, you need a booster
  • Oops, you need boosters every 3-6 months
  • Oh, we never tested it for transmission, Grandma can still get it, oops
  • Oh, we never tested it on pregnant people, oops
  • We have no long term studies, and we gave our Control group the shot, so no way of knowing what's in the future if you take the shot
Personally, I work with physicians, who were mandated to get the shot. And another. And boosters. I have been keeping leave/sick/vacation spreadsheets for over 12 years. In that time most of the physicians would get sick once a year, some not at all. Since 2021 and the shot mandates I have noticed a surge in calling out sick, and not for Covid (they get tested).

In my immediate family three of us decided that the 99.98% to 99.5% survival rate was good enough to not take an experimental shot.

Unfortunately my dh allowed himself to be coerced into taking two jabs. He is been home with early onset moderate dementia of unknown cause since 2 days after the second shot.

Do as you like, but be informed.

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They're aren't any. It's a false sense of security. I am vaccinated and currently have it

I am a nurse and I refused to get the vaccination because I feel it was crated to fast with not enough time to test it.

My husband decided to get the vaccination related to his decreased immunity.

Neither one of us have had Covid.
 
Please look at the whole picture before making that decision- that shot is the only one I have never had- my family who works in pharmaceuticals as a sales rep couldn’t sell as safe to me and I’ve seen the most strange reactions from friends who received it - there are many non pharmaceuticals supplements that boost your immune system- took me 45 years to learn this but now I am still in awe of what a few good vitamins and diet changes can do!

The safeness of the vaccination is what kept me from taking it.

As I said before the vaccination was approved too quickly.
 
The several people I knew that supposedly died from COVID were vaxed. Know dozens that are not vaxed, had COVID and all are still here.
I slept next to my wife who had it twice. Never got it. Same with many people I know. My SIL had a drink and a bite from her grandsons food and never got it.
So your " most who died were not vaxed is far from the truth.
I’m vacinnated. I have young grandchildren. I never got it. If you remember basic biology…it’s the unvaccinated who change the virus and so many did not. Every time an unvaccinated person contracts it they load the roulette wheel for themselves and everyone around them. Good for you if your symptoms were mild…however, you may very well have given it to someone who wasn’t so lucky. https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
I believe that the poster has a unique situation. He/she doesn’t mingle with others and lives on a rural farm. If she were going in populated areas or large crowds, she may still need to get vaccinated.
 
I worked in the nursing profession for 46 years.

I retired in 2015 at the age of 70.

I feel that I have an immunity system that was created by working in the medical field.

I take Vitamin C, B Complex, D3, E, and a Folate, these I would not be without as I don't feel good when I don't take them.
I have been a RN for 24 years and am still working at 68.
I suspect we have immune systems that can attack squirrels.
 
I am not a doctor (the fact that I am not a doctor, I will probably say every time, just in case, so as not to sit here writing harmful, unscientific things that could accidentally deceive people), my education is connected with car repair, computers, construction and operation gas pipelines (it so happened that for many years I studied for different professions and often worked in different specialties). Well, in medicine, I don’t really understand anything, it’s worth voicing (just in case).
Now, having voiced some disposition :) , I can write freely.
So, what I think - I personally have a suspicion that resistance or instability to diseases, in particular to covid, may be due to mediocre and excessive use of antibiotics (I am now voicing Russian reality and do not climb into American reality, where I did not live and do not was).
What is the situation - some people, having seen enough advertising, begin to take antibiotics intensively, without being sick, "for prevention." They drink antibiotics so as not to get a mild flu, to cure a runny nose that will pass anyway, they drink antibiotics for various very hypothetical diseases, and in addition they sometimes get agricultural antibiotics in meat and even milk, when a not too careful producer, instead of maintaining sanitary standards in himself at the enterprise, he simply stuffs the livestock of chickens or cows with antibiotics.
And then an interesting situation begins - a person, constantly receiving antibiotics, squanders his immunity. And in addition, when he really gets infected with a bad disease - antibiotics stop working on him, he needs more and stronger antibiotics. At the exit, when covid occurs, such a person becomes practically defenseless. Someone lacks their immunity, someone needs to stay in the hospital under the supervision of doctors and drink some kind of strengthening drugs, and someone, even surrounded by doctors, is in an extremely serious condition.
In addition, these people often even violate the course of taking, they do not drink antibiotics in a course if they are sick with something (I'm not talking about covid now), they will take one pill, they feel better, and they drop everything if they feel better. And antibiotics have a side effect - they not only suppress the development of infections, but also suppress human immunity. And it turns out a situation where the immune system is suppressed, and antibiotics are abandoned in the middle of the course, and there is no immunity, no antibiotic, and then covid suddenly comes on the scene, lying on existing diseases. And the person gets a very dangerous condition.

In this situation, it would be best not to abuse antibiotics unnecessarily, and if they are prescribed by a doctor, follow the doctor's instructions, and not abandon them in the middle of the course, as some people sometimes (here in Russia) do.
 
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