Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

Hi, I am calling upon some feather sexing experts here. I have 2 CL (rooster) x Red Star chicks and 1 CL (rooster) x RIR chick. I took some pictures of their wing feathers hoping to feather sex them. Kindly advise if I am correct if these are indeed feather sexible:


Following pics are of Bowser at 48 hrs. I see alternate rows of feathers so
may have to switch his name to Zelda
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Here is Bowser's sister Pauline at 24 hrs. My hunch is a girl






Here is the RIR cross Peach at about 60 hrs. She did not have any
feathering at birth, so I had to wait to take her picture. Pullet?



 
Those are some really great wing pictures. But I personally never go by feather sexing since it only hold true for some breeds not all.
 
I hope you dont mind me jumping in real quick, I had to sell off most of my flock due to illness and the remaining is free ranging. My question is, now there are a few HRIR running with the CCL and I have friends who want eggs and are wondering the result from the breeding the CCL over the HRIR hens, egg color and possible hen looks in general. Would this combo also be sexlinked? Thanks for your help, if anyone has time, I would appreciate thank you! SallyAnn

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On eBay there's a seller who's selling eggs of this exact same cross (type Legbar into search engine..she's got pics). She claims they're sex-linked (females are chipmunk, males with spot on head). My "female" hatched out cute as a button and then roo'ed up pretty quick, so I wouldn't exactly say they breed a true sex-link. Of course, the Seller is still claiming it's a pullet. I'd be very surprised if an egg arrived before a crow.

(A progression of Ethel: 1 day, a couple weeks, 5.5 weeks)










The coloring ends up predominantly red with some flecks of black, white. No real barring, per se, like a CCL.
 
Yep, that's the one. I'll bump to anyone else that has more experience with the cross because mine is, er, limited and kind of suspicious at best.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if their RIR is a hybrid. In the picture I could see a couple of hybrids that look like my (supposed) CCLxRIR. I think they just have the one roo for all their cross/pure breds, and most likely the pure CCL hen is a sibling because I got the most un-CCL pullet from the pure CCL egg (which was more greeN than blue and yielded creamsicle-colored fuzz chick with black dots, so possibly recessive genes somewhere...I definitely queried the seller on that one with a "What IS it?")

They claim the CCLxRIR cross will be an olive egg, but in the egg shot I just see green. If mine crows I'll never find out, eh? Sadly, only one of that cross hatched.

As someone on the CCL thread so adeptly surmised, "They chicken multipliers, not breeders"

Purebred CCL pullet chick:



 
I hope you dont mind me jumping in real quick, I had to sell off most of my flock due to illness and the remaining is free ranging. My question is, now there are a few HRIR running with the CCL and I have friends who want eggs and are wondering the result from the breeding the CCL over the HRIR hens, egg color and possible hen looks in general. Would this combo also be sexlinked? Thanks for your help, if anyone has time, I would appreciate thank you! SallyAnn

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Hi Sally!

So sorry about the illness.
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They will not make red sexlinks because the CCLs are not silver but barred.

The male needs to be not barred and the female has to be barred to make black sex links so if the rooster is the CCL and the Hens are RIRs they will not be black sexlinked.

Since HRIRs are darker than Hatchery RIRs, they will be darker in color than the ones posted. Also feather sexing does not work with HRIRs because they have not been crossed with leg horns like the Hatchery RIRs so they will not be feather sexable either. You will know gender by 6 weeks old though by the comb and wattles.

So,
Dark red with some barring
Most Eggs will be lime green
Will not be sexlinked
Not feather sexable

Best!
 
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People's definition of olive is often different than reality. Personally I find it very frustrating when people think an ordinary brown egg crossed with a Legbar results in olive. It does not; it is green.

white + blue = light blue
tinted + blue = light green
brown + blue = green
dark brown + blue = olive

dark brown genes come from Welsummer and Marans chickens (not RIR).
 

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