Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

[Ravynscroft]

Yes- she does have muffs!

So no color sex link, Even with the Biel roo? What do you make of the blue chicks- from the EE with BCM roo?

Black sex links can't be made using a barred rooster, only with a barred hen... hen passes barring only to her sons, but a rooster passes his barring to all his offspring...

 

[gotro17]

Black sex links can't be made using a barred rooster, only with a barred hen... hen passes barring only to her sons, but a rooster passes his barring to all his offspring...

Where do you think these blues are coming from? Can the BCM over the EE or CL throw blues?

 

[RobG7aChattTN]

Does anyone have any photos of mature BCM X CL sex link chickens? Preferably hens but I'd like to see the roosters too. I'm very interested to see what they look like mature. I have both breeds so I might try this cross.

The hens look exactly like a regular Black-Copper Marans hens and should lay "olive green" eggs (Olive Eggers). I've only raised a few of the cockerels to the point of a few weeks but they are barred like a barred rock. The feet are lightly feathered. I hatch all of my blue eggs on a separate tray and put a zip tie on their legs so they don't get confused with my Marans.

 

[jerryse]

Ok, I'm back from some reading up, and I learned that Blue Red Splash does NOT mean a splash version of red. It just means a black breasted red wherein the black areas are either blue or splash. And the red is mostly unaffected.

And I also learned that the effect of the blue-splash genes on these red birds can mimic the effect of Dominant White, so that the Blue Red Splashes and Red Pyles look very similar to each other.

That explains why my hen looks like both. But she can't be a Splash, because then all of her chicks, when mated to the CL rooster, would be blues, but they are not.

Good job researching ! I had no experience with blue reds . Good point draye .

 

[Finnie]

Black sex links can't be made using a barred rooster, only with a barred hen... hen passes barring only to her sons, but a rooster passes his barring to all his offspring...

Where do you think these blues are coming from? Can the BCM over the EE or CL throw blues?

Can you post a photo of the EE hen? Maybe she is blue, but not very apparent.

 

[gotro17]

Can you post a photo of the EE hen? Maybe she is blue, but not very apparent.

She definitely has some blue... I'll assume the blues are hers... I'm just amazed all the blacks are pullets~

 

[GaryDean26]

Does anyone have any photos of mature BCM X CL sex link chickens? Preferably hens but I'd like to see the roosters too. I'm very interested to see what they look like mature. I have both breeds so I might try this cross.

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Here is one of my Marans X Cream Legbar Pullets. I used a Cream Legbar cock over a Marans Hen so this was NOT a sex-link and as you can see is barred. I don't have access to any photos of our past sex-linked hens, but there are some posted by others on this thread. Many of ours came out with the rust color on their crest. They can vary from a mossy hen to a silver birchen to a copper black hen.



As far as the Marans X Cream Legbar cockerels go they are nearly all black breasted red birds (with single barring on the sex-links). We came a cross a few black ones which proves what some of the big talking Marans Breeds have been denying for years, that the Black-Copper lines have extended black in them. That opens a whole other can of worms. Some keep cocks with red shafting on the breast because when paired with a hen with extended black (these hens lack any copper on the hackle) they produce offspring that look correct (but genetically are any thing but correct). There is less of a range in the cockerels but still some variation.

 

[gotro17]

Thanks! Here's the brood this morning.

 

[draye]

I understand how the black-blue-splash genetics works, but I am not familiar with a Red Splash. It is already established that my EE hen cannot be double factored, whatever the gene may be, because she only passed it to half of her offspring, not 100% of them.

Now I'm going to have to go look up Blue Red Splash as well.

The color of the hens are Blue Red Splash (you may be more familiar with the term Blue Copper, about the same thing). So therefore you have Blue RedBlue Copper), Black Gold (Black Copper), and the Spkash varieties of each one. What you have are basically a Blue Copper Splash ( if you prefer that term).

 

[RobG7aChattTN]

The hens look exactly like a regular Black-Copper Marans hens and should lay "olive green" eggs (Olive Eggers). I've only raised a few of the cockerels to the point of a few weeks but they are barred like a barred rock. The feet are lightly feathered. I hatch all of my blue eggs on a separate tray and put a zip tie on their legs so they don't get confused with my Marans.

Here are the two hens that I kept. The one with more copper only has a few feathers on her feet and the one with less copper has more feathers on her feet.