Hi everyone, beautiful Sunny day today, temps around 70 degrees. Got some outdoor stuff done & now headed off to my granddaughters volleyball game. Not certain how these schools think that parents can make it to their kids games. They have them scheduled to start at 4:30 even the away games. In this day & age both parents work & usually can't afford to leave work early or even aren't allowed. Granny sorry to hear that your new birds are sick. That's how I lost my favorite roo early this spring. In about a weeks time he starved to death. I think he had bad worms & he was so docile that I think he may have been bullied at the hanging feeder in the coop. I'm praying yours pull thru. He died the day I figured out what was happening I agree that everyone has different approaches to parenting. Some kids are so agreeable that a harsh talking to might be all it takes. Unfortunately some children are very strong willed and won't listen to reasoning. I raised 2 like that. I spanked as well as taking away a priveledge when need. I was never abusive, but I definetly wished I wouldn't have had to spank. I was raised by a very tough father. We were spanked, but I could except that way better than the verbal abuse he doled out. The only time I had a problem with a spanking was when I was in the 11th grade in high school and for some reason I had did something that had set him off when my girlfriends stopped to pick me up for a school dance. He spanked me in front of my friends & then wouldn't let me go to the dance. To this day I cant remember what I did that made a grown man spank a teenager. The only thing I have ever remembered from that incidence was how humiliated he made me feel.