Heritage Large Fowl - Phase II

I can't remember if I posted this before. I looked but couldn't find it in the list archive.
Poultry Success, Volumes 16-17 Sept. , 1905 .
Pages 10 and 11 .
http://tinyurl.com/ow28mtv
How to Breed Exhibition Silver Gray Dorkings.
An Interesting Paper on Mating This Celebrated English Fowl For Best Results.

By Frank L. Platt.
Written Exclusively for Poultry Success.
 
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Oh yes that sunshine is a great hormonal stimulant, temperature changer, vitamin producer, and as George said the disinfectant too eg: Turtles on a log in the sunny part of the day is not so much of a blood warmer(which it does a little bit) but it kills off a lot of harmful bacterias (cooties/crites) also. My dog smells a bit better after some time in the sunshine too than she normally does/would most any other given time LOL

The buzzards sun themselves to great extent and all that is for obvious reasons too(pshewwie) LOL new word for sunbathing (buzzard bath) LOL

Jeff

Serotonin levels in some people are lower in winter than in summer. That is where the late winter blues for some people come from.

SSRIs and SNRIs role is to inhibit the reuptake of serotonin, and as a result keep more circulating in the blood stream. The idea is to boost mood. They are used as antidepressants.
The serotonin levels drop at night. Sleeping late in the day does not help. Exposure to sunshine first thing in the morning boosts the body's production of serotonin and there will be more available in the blood stream that day.

A good reason to get out and see the sunrise. Your mood will be better for it the rest of the day.

Serotonin levels also have an effect (stimulate) on appetite. The feeling of well being effects social order. Mice with higher serotonin levels are more dominant. It is also important to the cardio vascular system (vessel tone) and in neurotransmission.

I do not have a clue about birds, but the point is that everything is connected.

When it is not hot, my birds love to take a sun bath.
 
Low Rider Sussex

I want to lower the chassis of my Light Sussex on their legs even further than they are now. Is there a way to breed this in other than just visual complementary matings? Are there connections between structure and station I should be looking for to help guide my way?
Thanks,
Karen

Is it that you want to make the birds shorter or select for deeper keels?

When I think about a good Sussex I see long wide bodies and deep keels. Legs slightly off center with a slight slope of the back shifting the weight to the legs.

I picture a dressed bird laying flat on a plate. If that makes any sense. Kind of a cinder block a little out of level.

Too me it is there depth that makes them appear low as much as anything.
 
Bob sent me a PM and told me to keep my Fogel....Reese or whatever RIRs out of the sun If I was going to show them. The sun washes out the red in them.
X2. I had hatchery reds( I know I know they're really just crappy production reds ) and even though they would of never gotten as dark as they should of for the SOP the sun did quickly bleach them out.
 
Is it that you want to make the birds shorter or select for deeper keels?

When I think about a good Sussex I see long wide bodies and deep keels. Legs slightly off center with a slight slope of the back shifting the weight to the legs.

I picture a dressed bird laying flat on a plate. If that makes any sense. Kind of a cinder block a little out of level.

Too me it is there depth that makes them appear low as much as anything.

X2. Exactly. Be careful not to reinvent the Dorking. Sussex have medium length in shank and thigh with visible thigh below the body line. Dorkings are short shanked without visible thigh below the body line. The Sussex differs from the Dorking in that it has longer shanks, a shorter tail, and, probably, a slightly shorter back.
 
Bob had vision. He also honest and true loved standard-bred fowl, and like anyone who's enjoyed the benefit of loving something enough to learn about it, he like to share so that others could find the treasure he himself had found.

With that, yes, there is a need to always return to the purpose of this thread which is to help others branch out into SOP-based stock. Ask away, then, if you're looking for something. Several of us a pretty well connected and can help you find what you're hoping for.

To that end, if anyone is looking for Light and Dark Brown Leghorns, PM me and I'll do my best to introduce you to a few sources. We offer RC Anconas and White Dorkings. Jeremy offers some excellent Rocks, NHs, as well as White Dorkings. Pick your poison.

As to the tangents, I think that they've always been part of the health of this thread. It's one thing to convert; it's another to sustain.

Perhaps most importantly, this thread has always been well grounded in the American Standard of Perfection, and that is what has always kept me coming back.
 
Bob had vision. He also honest and true loved standard-bred fowl, and like anyone who's enjoyed the benefit of loving something enough to learn about it, he like to share so that others could find the treasure he himself had found.

With that, yes, there is a need to always return to the purpose of this thread which is to help others branch out into SOP-based stock. Ask away, then, if you're looking for something. Several of us a pretty well connected and can help you find what you're hoping for.

To that end, if anyone is looking for Light and Dark Brown Leghorns, PM me and I'll do my best to introduce you to a few sources. We offer RC Anconas and White Dorkings. Jeremy offers some excellent Rocks, NHs, as well as White Dorkings. Pick your poison.

As to the tangents, I think that they've always been part of the health of this thread. It's one thing to convert; it's another to sustain.

Perhaps most importantly, this thread has always been well grounded in the American Standard of Perfection, and that is what has always kept me coming back.

Unfortunately, I never knew Bob and from what I read, it's my great loss.

I'm the third generation in a family that has bred for production above all else. The fourth, my son, is hell bent on producing and exhibiting NNs bred to the Standard of perfection and I'm determined to help him all the way.
 
Speaking of Bob, I'd like to share an e-mail I received from him in 2012. I was asking for feedback & his personal advice on my Silver Penciled Rock. I had searched in vain for another line to work alongside my own, a line that would offset the things that needed improvement in my line. Bob's reply was encouraging and helpful - in his e-mail, he refers to "Anthony" - I'm not sure who this person is, or why Bob mentioned him...does anyone happen to know him? I'm guessing he's also a breeder of Silver Penciled Rock, and I'd love to make contact if so:


Hi Wynette: Dont give up you got very good colored birds. The size is 8.5 lbs the standard is one pound less. You are in the ball park for size. I like to have them one pound above standard weight. So if you have males that size then your females should be on the money. You can get them bigger it will take time. I got a email from Anthony a few minutes ago.

I just came back from Matt Ulrich home about two hours ago and we talked about your worries. He has Black Austrolorps and they are on the small size. I am going to trade 18 of my white rock large fowl eggs to a guy in Washington State for 19 of his Black Austrolorpes eggs. They are suppose to be bigger birds. Then I am going to give them to Matt and see if they are really better than what he has. His birds are really true to type they are standard size. But today the judges want a bird three pounds over weight to win at show.

If I had your birds. I would have the biggest hen you got as size and type is mostly by the hen mated to your biggest male with the best color as males are suppose to help more in color than shape.

You have the best strain of Silver Penciled Rocks in the USA. Dont give up on them. If Dick liked them he knows. Also, they told me he was selling a dozen of Silver Penciled large fowl eggs at the show in Florida last Saturday. I thought of you right off the bat when Matt told me.

So hold you head up high pray to the poultry gods your birds will come through this spring with some chicks and buy yourself some cod liver oil and put some on their feed for fertility. It will all work out.

Why dont more people have this pretty breed. The prettier they are the harder they are to breed for color. Bob
The best SP Rocks I ever saw were owned by Charles Tigner,in Seale, ALA.. Charles passed away, but his friend, Warren Starke, may know where they went. They were large birds with incredible penciling, and won wherever shown.
 

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