Link your oral meds article and tubing thread?
Impacted crop
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Which tubing thread do you like best? I am in the process of doing a proper one right now.
Here is the oral medications article:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...dications-to-all-poultry-and-waterfowl.73335/
@chickenenthusiasts5698, if you do decide to tube, please let me know before you do it so I can write up directions specifically for you.
I don't know, just need to give more info for these folks.
An article would be better, no chatter to wade thru in an emergency.
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chickenenthusiasts5698
Crowing
I don’t know what to do...My mom has given up hope on her she doesn’t think there’s anything we can do to help her she doesn’t want to tube her because she thinks we’ll choke her and that it won’t work..
@chickenenthusiasts5698, your mom may have given up, but please, you do not give up on your girl. I am going to guess you are at least 15 years old and, if so, you can do the tube feeding yourself. Your love for this little bird can help her live. I wish I lived just a little bit closer to you. I would definitely help. But trust me, this is something you are capable of doing and then will have in your bag of experiences and then you will be able to help others.
All you need is a 6” piece of aquarium tubing, a syringe, and a tube of the miconazole. (I said monistat earlier, which is just the brand name of the medicine miconazole.) Both @azygous and @casportpony have excellent instructions and I can even add my two cents worth of that may help. Probably the only thing I could add to what they say is to securely wrap your girl in a towel so she is completely immobilized. I sat on the floor with my hen between my legs, and used one of my legs to help secure her. It will take both of your hands to tube her, one to hold her beak open and the other to guide the tube down her esophagus.
Go ahead and forget about doing crop surgery. I do not believe that is something you need to tackle. Most likely if you tried, the results would end poorly for your hen and for you. Don’t put yourself in that position.
Good luck, and please let one of these experienced BYC members, who have offered assistance, guide you through tube feeding.
All you need is a 6” piece of aquarium tubing, a syringe, and a tube of the miconazole. (I said monistat earlier, which is just the brand name of the medicine miconazole.) Both @azygous and @casportpony have excellent instructions and I can even add my two cents worth of that may help. Probably the only thing I could add to what they say is to securely wrap your girl in a towel so she is completely immobilized. I sat on the floor with my hen between my legs, and used one of my legs to help secure her. It will take both of your hands to tube her, one to hold her beak open and the other to guide the tube down her esophagus.
Go ahead and forget about doing crop surgery. I do not believe that is something you need to tackle. Most likely if you tried, the results would end poorly for your hen and for you. Don’t put yourself in that position.
And I will leave you with this quote from azygous when I was dealing with my girl’s crop. It rings true for you in your situation as well.
Good luck, and please let one of these experienced BYC members, who have offered assistance, guide you through tube feeding.
Before I tried tube feeding, I was certain it was something so technical and tricky, I'd be better off not even trying it. Then I had a hen that was absolutely refusing to eat or drink. I asked myself, am I more stubborn and determined to save her or is she more stubborn and determine to die. I decided I wasn't going to let a chicken get the upper hand and I jumped right into it. I was surprised how easy it was.
I had the tubing since a friend that uses oxygen at night gave me his discarded tubing, and I had a syringe that fit into the tube. I held it up to the chicken and marked where the tube would hit the bottom of her crop and cut it at that length, about six inches. You can have it longer, but it makes it more awkward to insert the syringe and squeeze the liquid food into the tube.
Here's all you need to know about inserting the tube. If you accidentally start puting it down the wrong hole in the throat, the chicken will start to cough. If that doesn't happen, you got it down the esophagus okay.
Open the chicken's beak and try to extend her neck as straight as possible. Then insert the tube along the right side of her throat (her right side, not yours), and you should feel it slide right into the crop. If it hangs up, straighten her neck and it will go in smoothly.
It helps to have someone holding the chicken and also the tube to keep the tube from popping back out. But you can learn to do it by yourself. When the tube is in and the chicken is relaxed, then insert the syringe and begin slowly squeezing the contents into the crop. Go slow so the stuff doesn't blast into the chicken which is uncomfortable. The food or any water should be warmed up to about 100 F so it doesn't chill the chicken.
This doesn't hurt the chicken. In fact, I think it feels satisfying to them to have the warm food go into the crop, and they tend to relax when you're doing it. I try to keep the amount to about four ounces so as not to overfill the crop. You can feed her more later.
Once you do it, you'll find it's a nifty way to get fluids, food and medicine into a chicken. It really does beat trying to struggle with an uncooperative patient and ending up with food all over you and the patient and nothing got where it was supposed to go.
Did you want to try surgery? You would absolutely need a helper. If your mom doesn't want to help, that pretty much eliminates the surgical option. But you could do it, I believe. Others here have done the surgery, and it was successful, and after pulling massive clogs out of the crop, they were certain the chicken would not have survived without the surgery.
I had the tubing since a friend that uses oxygen at night gave me his discarded tubing, and I had a syringe that fit into the tube. I held it up to the chicken and marked where the tube would hit the bottom of her crop and cut it at that length, about six inches. You can have it longer, but it makes it more awkward to insert the syringe and squeeze the liquid food into the tube.
Here's all you need to know about inserting the tube. If you accidentally start puting it down the wrong hole in the throat, the chicken will start to cough. If that doesn't happen, you got it down the esophagus okay.
Open the chicken's beak and try to extend her neck as straight as possible. Then insert the tube along the right side of her throat (her right side, not yours), and you should feel it slide right into the crop. If it hangs up, straighten her neck and it will go in smoothly.
It helps to have someone holding the chicken and also the tube to keep the tube from popping back out. But you can learn to do it by yourself. When the tube is in and the chicken is relaxed, then insert the syringe and begin slowly squeezing the contents into the crop. Go slow so the stuff doesn't blast into the chicken which is uncomfortable. The food or any water should be warmed up to about 100 F so it doesn't chill the chicken.
This doesn't hurt the chicken. In fact, I think it feels satisfying to them to have the warm food go into the crop, and they tend to relax when you're doing it. I try to keep the amount to about four ounces so as not to overfill the crop. You can feed her more later.
Once you do it, you'll find it's a nifty way to get fluids, food and medicine into a chicken. It really does beat trying to struggle with an uncooperative patient and ending up with food all over you and the patient and nothing got where it was supposed to go.
Did you want to try surgery? You would absolutely need a helper. If your mom doesn't want to help, that pretty much eliminates the surgical option. But you could do it, I believe. Others here have done the surgery, and it was successful, and after pulling massive clogs out of the crop, they were certain the chicken would not have survived without the surgery.
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chickenenthusiasts5698
Crowing
I think i’m going to try it my sisters is going to take me to get the tube and syringe.
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chickenenthusiasts5698
Crowing
Is the tubing supposed to help break up her crop? Or just get her nutrients back?
Tubing fluids should break up the mass that's in her crop. That fluid should then start to make its way though her proventriculas, gizzard, and intestines. What does her poop look like now?
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