If the government was an old antique dresser, I think the first step to fixing it would be to strip all the layers of paint and varnish off to get back to the bare wood. It's gonna make a big mess, but putting more layers of paint on a what used to be a beautiful dresser isn't going to fix it when the legs are getting loose and the drawers are stuck. Either that or get a new "made in china" particle board, vinel covered dresser instead. I don't know what political party this makes me, but I think the analogy is a good one. I think a government should work like a family, a balance of conservative (Dad) and liberal (Mom) leaders to set examples. Mom should be there for you when you are hungry and to keep you safe, healthy and clean and wein you when you are old enough, and dad there to give you strength and freedom to allow you to set out on your own and set you straight when you are out of touch with your family or getting to big for your britches. And leaders should set examples and live within their means. Yeah, I'm old fashioned. But I really don't see a better way at this time.
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Hey, NY GAS IS $4.10
Come to think of it I have never been offered a job by a guy at the on ramp to the freeway either.
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All my employers have been wealthy. Never got a job from someone hanging out in Section 8 housing....
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All my employers have been wealthy. Never got a job from someone hanging out in Section 8 housing....
Dunkopk you are starting to make sense.
The feds actually make more money per gallon from gas than the oil companies do I think fed tax is 24 cents and actual reported profit by the oil companies is 7 cents a gallon.
If gas prices were really controlled by demand we would be paying a lot less and demand for gas is higher in the summer months and the price goes up in the summer months. American gas prices are controlled by the U.S. government as part of the military industrial complex.
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Rufus you make the most sense of everyone o here for the most part. Don't agree with everything you say, but you make some very good observations.
Our jobs are going to Asia because of the incredibly cheap, close to slave labor force. They are slowly becoming organized though and one day you will see riots as they try to create unions and improve their conditions. Around that time we will see jobs returning here. It's all just going to be a big realignment in our way of living. people with skills that can be done by most anyone such as the jobs that the undocumented immigrants have been doing, will be living at the same level as the undocumented immigrants currently are. Factory jobs will pay wages that will barely keep a person alive with no benefits.
The wealth is indeed transitory. Wealthy people usually have homes in at least 2 continents. They deal with business on an international scale and don't really have any allegiance to America. That's the reason they really don't care about what happens to America. That is also the reason I don't understand the allegiance that so many conservatives (which there are an unusually high amount of on this forum) have to wealthy people. They profit hugely from the commons and the atmosphere provided by the US. Yet so many people feel they should pay the same level of tax as the lower 98% do. Why? The average tax burden that people in the top 2% pay is 16% after deductions. A married couple making over 70k with no house or kids pays around 23%. Why is that? Could it truly be that people think they may be in that upper 2% some day and they won't want to pay a fair amount when they are there?
The wealthy don't provide jobs. When they are given tax breaks and are allowed to sell inferior products to increase their bottom line, they invest their money in overseas factories and labor. Once again because they would rather get that extra penny profit than help out the people that put them where they are.
I tend to agree that we have allowed people to get too used to the free hand outs. If a person is on welfare they should be required to apply for jobs and accept anything they are capable of doing. That would give incentive to locate something better. Food stamps should be much better controlled than they are. The dems give too much and the pubs try not to give anything. There has to be a middle ground. Churches are not the answer Q. Regulations are needed. They need to be better thought out and easier to change when it is determined that what they are doing is stupid. Taxes are a fact of life. We actually have pretty low taxes in America. There's too many big businesses making record profits and not paying any taxes at all for me to accept the BS about high corporate taxes. I see a lot of problems with regulations and taxes on small businesses but not on big ones.
We don't need less regulations and taxes. We need campaign finance reform. We need our representatives to represent us instead of corporate America.
BTW Chickened. Gas prices are controlled by demand. The money we pay the oil companies doesn't do a thing to bring gas prices down. They would like you to think it does. What Obama had for breakfast has more effect than the money we pay oil companies to raise their bottom line. It does have a big effect on campaign contributions though.
The feds actually make more money per gallon from gas than the oil companies do I think fed tax is 24 cents and actual reported profit by the oil companies is 7 cents a gallon.
If gas prices were really controlled by demand we would be paying a lot less and demand for gas is higher in the summer months and the price goes up in the summer months. American gas prices are controlled by the U.S. government as part of the military industrial complex.
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Rufus you make the most sense of everyone o here for the most part. Don't agree with everything you say, but you make some very good observations.
Our jobs are going to Asia because of the incredibly cheap, close to slave labor force. They are slowly becoming organized though and one day you will see riots as they try to create unions and improve their conditions. Around that time we will see jobs returning here. It's all just going to be a big realignment in our way of living. people with skills that can be done by most anyone such as the jobs that the undocumented immigrants have been doing, will be living at the same level as the undocumented immigrants currently are. Factory jobs will pay wages that will barely keep a person alive with no benefits.
The wealth is indeed transitory. Wealthy people usually have homes in at least 2 continents. They deal with business on an international scale and don't really have any allegiance to America. That's the reason they really don't care about what happens to America. That is also the reason I don't understand the allegiance that so many conservatives (which there are an unusually high amount of on this forum) have to wealthy people. They profit hugely from the commons and the atmosphere provided by the US. Yet so many people feel they should pay the same level of tax as the lower 98% do. Why? The average tax burden that people in the top 2% pay is 16% after deductions. A married couple making over 70k with no house or kids pays around 23%. Why is that? Could it truly be that people think they may be in that upper 2% some day and they won't want to pay a fair amount when they are there?
The wealthy don't provide jobs. When they are given tax breaks and are allowed to sell inferior products to increase their bottom line, they invest their money in overseas factories and labor. Once again because they would rather get that extra penny profit than help out the people that put them where they are.
I tend to agree that we have allowed people to get too used to the free hand outs. If a person is on welfare they should be required to apply for jobs and accept anything they are capable of doing. That would give incentive to locate something better. Food stamps should be much better controlled than they are. The dems give too much and the pubs try not to give anything. There has to be a middle ground. Churches are not the answer Q. Regulations are needed. They need to be better thought out and easier to change when it is determined that what they are doing is stupid. Taxes are a fact of life. We actually have pretty low taxes in America. There's too many big businesses making record profits and not paying any taxes at all for me to accept the BS about high corporate taxes. I see a lot of problems with regulations and taxes on small businesses but not on big ones.
We don't need less regulations and taxes. We need campaign finance reform. We need our representatives to represent us instead of corporate America.
BTW Chickened. Gas prices are controlled by demand. The money we pay the oil companies doesn't do a thing to bring gas prices down. They would like you to think it does. What Obama had for breakfast has more effect than the money we pay oil companies to raise their bottom line. It does have a big effect on campaign contributions though.
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The Roman leaders when on display in their parades were required to have a slave ride with them and to tell them to remember that they were replaceable.
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The Unions are not poor either they have been corn fed and fattened by the working man also.
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All my employers have been wealthy. Never got a job from someone hanging out in Section 8 housing....
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when I worked for other folks I experienced the same thing no poor folks ever hired me
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All my employers have been wealthy. Never got a job from someone hanging out in Section 8 housing....
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when I worked for other folks I experienced the same thing no poor folks ever hired me
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Yes, wealth is transitory. You buy enough Japanese, Korean cars and Middle Eastern oil and not to forget plenty of cheap Chinese gee gaws and the nation's wealth is promptly in someone elses' pocket. The wealth moves, the former owners stay here.
In this country, truly wealthy people are very scarce now days. Our nation is losing it's operating capital. Soon we will be losing skilled workers, engineers and scientist because they cannot find employment here. For years countries like India suffered because as soon as someone graduated from a technical or medical school they emigrated.
It does little good to educate people for non existing jobs. When a society is hostile to investment and innovation, it is pretty much dead economically. India did not turn around until they saw the light and forsook socialism.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this country that believe the big lies of politicians. They prey upon peoples' fears and promote class warfare. Jealousy and envy are the stock and trade of certain political parties.
I knew people that believed the terrible lies propounded by a certain political party that the bankers, business people and a certain religious faith got together and caused the great depression. Of course it was all hogwash, but they believed it to their dying day.
Don't be deceived! Making me poor does not make you wealthy.
Rufus
In this country, truly wealthy people are very scarce now days. Our nation is losing it's operating capital. Soon we will be losing skilled workers, engineers and scientist because they cannot find employment here. For years countries like India suffered because as soon as someone graduated from a technical or medical school they emigrated.
It does little good to educate people for non existing jobs. When a society is hostile to investment and innovation, it is pretty much dead economically. India did not turn around until they saw the light and forsook socialism.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this country that believe the big lies of politicians. They prey upon peoples' fears and promote class warfare. Jealousy and envy are the stock and trade of certain political parties.
I knew people that believed the terrible lies propounded by a certain political party that the bankers, business people and a certain religious faith got together and caused the great depression. Of course it was all hogwash, but they believed it to their dying day.
Don't be deceived! Making me poor does not make you wealthy.
Rufus
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Time to take the bus.
Rufus
Time to take the bus.
Rufus
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I knew a lady who when she and her husband split up one fall in order to get through the winter she burnt all her furniture in the wood stove then her and her husband and family built a new much better dresser not all cracked and covered with the nasty old layers and layers of flaking paint and rotten moldy wood as she watched the dresser burn she even squashed all the pests that ran out
I knew a lady who when she and her husband split up one fall in order to get through the winter she burnt all her furniture in the wood stove then her and her husband and family built a new much better dresser not all cracked and covered with the nasty old layers and layers of flaking paint and rotten moldy wood as she watched the dresser burn she even squashed all the pests that ran out
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Time to take the bus.
Rufus
just do like the rest of us raise your fuel surcharge on the next person you work for see what happens when the gov raises taxes it goes up twice LOL
Time to take the bus.
Rufus
just do like the rest of us raise your fuel surcharge on the next person you work for see what happens when the gov raises taxes it goes up twice LOL
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