is corn as main ingredient good for chickens?

[spartacus_63]

My grafted plant is not going to alter the plant next to it..

Plain and simple many people here oppose GMO specifically. Not grafting or hybrids.. Dozens of countries have banned GMO's not grafts or hybrids..... HUGE difference.

ON

Currently there is no evidence that shows that round up ready or any other manipulated plants will successfully pass their traits on to future generations. There has been a court action that stops the marketing of some plants in question. I would rather be safe than sorry, so erring on the side of caution is ok with me. Stopping it just for the sake of stopping it seems foolish though.

As for your grafted plant and hybrids, since plants do not alter after sprout, it would be the next generation that your grafted plant or hybrid would alter. And it certainly would alter that generation as long as it is the correct type of plant. A grafted pear tree will not alter a hydrangea, but it will alter the next generation of pears. There is no danger of Round up ready alfalfa altering the alfalfa in the field next to it. It is the cross pollination and the next years crop that is in question.

I can see that there are folks here that are anti GMO, but there are also folks here who understand that it has it's place and that it's not all that scary when you see what they are doing and what they are capable of producing. If anyone doesn't want or need modified plants, more power to them. The only reason I comment on this is because I have a different opinion.​

 

[Chris09]

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Absolutely. And hybrid seeds do not have to be open pollinated. Lots of seeds/plants are bred in a "lab". Even most of the fruit trees are hybrids. Talk about Frankin Foods. Take the root/trunk of one specimen and graft it to the stem/trunk of another and these are often branded organic. Try growing a pear tree from a seed and see what pops up.

And hybrid seeds do not have to be open pollinated.

If a Seed/Plant is, "Open Pollinated" it in most cases is a Non-Hybrid as in a, "Open Pollinated" Tomato, Corn and Peppers.

Take the root/trunk of one specimen and graft it to the stem/trunk of another and these are often branded organic. Try growing a pear tree from a seed and see what pops up.

When You graft the Rootstock of one plant to a "stemstock" (scion) of another plant it is Grafted Plant and not a Hybrid.
Grafted plants can be of a Hybrid or a Non-Hybrid variety.

Chris​

 

[Organics North]

Chris..
You are always so concise..

Spart.. I enjoy the way you write and think you are a nice person.. IMO it is healthy to share/debate our differences in opinion. I always learn a thing or two.

Be well..
ON

 

[spartacus_63]

When You graft the Rootstock of one plant to a "stemstock" (scion) of another plant it is Grafted Plant and not a Hybrid.
Grafted plants can be of a Hybrid or a Non-Hybrid variety.

It certainly would matter how "hybrid" is defined. The bottom line is when using grafted stock, you are changing the natural results of that plant. Grafting has been around almost as long as fowl breeding and if it were not for grafting, many varieties of fruit would not be as available. Vegetables are also an example of grafting. You can graft tomatoes to potatoes and get both on the same plant. Talk about a space saver.​

 

[Amyable]

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Got a pic of that??

 

[spartacus_63]

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Got a pic of that??

As a matter of fact, I do.

They are called Pomatos. Google them and you will find lots of information. They are not difficult to graft and can be a space saver in the space challenged urban garden.

 

[Organics North]

See ..
Learn something every day..
Wow I never saw that.!
I have seen grafted tomatoes but never to a potato.
Why not they are both in the same family. Nightshade ie: Solanaceae.

Interesting... indeed

ON

 

[Chris09]

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In horticulture, hybrid is referring to the offspring of sexual reproduction.
Since a hybrid plant in the field of horticulture has to be the offspring of sexual reproduction (pollination) that would leave out Grafting, Budding and cloning.
I have done my fare share of Grafting, Budding, and Cloning plants and there is no pollination involved.

Chris

 

[Taylor]

I offer cracked corn to mine at all times!!!! it is a must!!!!! I have 2 feeders: one with Layer Pellets, the other 1 with Cracked corn. I keep them both full at all times. if ya want good layers corn and layer feed is important. I even offer oyster shell to make the eggs that much stronger.

Corn also makes your yolks that deep-yellowishy-orange color.

My hens get table scraps, plenty of lettuces, grasses, bread, bugs, cucumbers, herbs, tomatoes, melons, apples...

Can't beat the tsate of grain-fed eggs!

 

[spartacus_63]

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In horticulture, hybrid is referring to the offspring of sexual reproduction.
Since a hybrid plant in the field of horticulture has to be the offspring of sexual reproduction (pollination) that would leave out Grafting, Budding and cloning.
I have done my fare share of Grafting, Budding, and Cloning plants and there is no pollination involved.

Chris

I'm not sure where you got your definition of hybrid, but where I am, reproduction in plants is not limited to sexual, it is a mater of propagation. A hybrid plant is a plant that crosses two genetically different plants. Although a graft technically joins to differing plants, the results are the same. A simple example of hybrids through grafting are Hybrid Tea Roses.

I too have grafted a few plants from time to time and the goal was to make a plant fit into a specific need. Dwarfing, climate tolerance, insect tolerance or even pollination enhancement. You could also graft for specialties like the pomato. These in my mind and by the definition I go by certainly fall into the hybrid category.