Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

Hi,
On may I got a pair of NNs, I believe they are crossed to araucanas, because they have pea comb, and the hen lays green eggs.
The female is white and the male is brown red.
Next, some pics of their babies that hatched yesterday:















What colour do you think they'll be?
13 eggs hatched, 5 not NN, and the 8 NN, only 2 have very tini bowties, the rest had big bowties.
I kept only 5, the most naked, the rest I gave them to a friend this morning.
Enjoy!

Nice chicks and looks like a well made incubator. My guess is they might turn out mostly birchen, brown reds, "brown gold"(genetically half silver half red) males and possibly some solid or almost solid blacks. They are all carriers for the white gene so if they are bred together, 25% of chicks will turn out white.

 

[Kev]

I guess I expected to see more outward signs of distress but I'm learning that it's not that easy to detect. I guess I should have realized that something was going on...she was
my favorite in that pen. I had tried hatching out some babies from her but just got boys, which I didn't keep.
I thought NN's were supposed to be pretty heat tolerant. I'm doing everything I can and still losing them. I have other birds, bigger birds, so I don't get it...why these girls?

Sorry you are experiencing this. From past experience, the signs of heat stressed birds are: not wanting to move even when you are trying to force them... when they do move, it is as if they are drunk... very excessive panting, eyes looking off, either dilated or constricted. It doesn't seem like you are seeing any of those signs.. plus don't recall any heat stressed birds dying at night, it was during the hottest or in the evening of a particularly hot day. Birds handle daytime heat better if the nights go below 70-75 or so at night.. they disspate the excess heat over night. it's when the nights are above 80-90 that heat suspectible birds start to have problems as they struggle to cool down their body core at all. (does the coop cool down a lot through the night or holds heat?)

If there's a bird with above symptoms- immediately cool them down, cold packs, soaked and frozen hand towels to their breasts/ under the wings.. hosing them down to the skin under the wings and breasts has worked... some people freeze water in plastic bottles and lay them around the coop(also done for rabbits).

 

[Kev]

My little Mr backwards is out....and he's Naked Flèche. Mum definitely La Flèche (the only white egg layers I have) and he definitely has a naked neck.

I snipped the membrane further after he had made no progress in 18 hours. Overnight he zipped and was fully dry this morning.

Here he is....sleeping off his efforts.

congrats! now it needs to grow up and make more funky comb NN.....

 

[Kev]

Re: recent sex ratio talks.. sexed a group of 22 NN bantams last week. Only 3, yes THREE females...?! what are the odds of that?

 

[flower]

Hey Kev, So nice to have your here. Are you hatching chicks at your place now ? Do you ever have any go broody ?

 

[Kev]

Hey Kev, So nice to have your here. Are you hatching chicks at your place now ? Do you ever have any go broody ?

Don't have an incubator due to allergies with bird dander(hatch days were very hard on me back when I did have one)... so everything has to be hatched under birds. Most of them do go broody, although it seems some like to lay zillions eggs before finally going broody.... which is good, unless you NEED a broody.... Ha!

The bantams are usually faster to go broody than LF.

Right now hatch rates aren't going to be good, with this heat.. just two hens on eggs, everybody else raising babies(mostly peachicks). So there's going to be a bit of stretch of no new babies for a couple months. But am really wanting to get the large fowl laced NN going ASAP.. the hens are laying, the cockerels are just barely old enough to be possibly fertile...

 

[pgpoultry]

Kev......3 out of 22 chicks female.....now that's MY type of hatch. My last hatch was 5/5 male, and a hatch I had a while ago was 9/11 male (Brahmas). Statistical probabilities and all that.....but I felt the dice was loaded (being vegetarian and anti-killing, lots of males is a nightmare).

Sorry you are having such high temps. and droughts this year. We have had too much rain and below average temperatures ( the jet stream was way too far south).

If you want broody, then Brahma is your girl in my experience. Being big they can cover a LOT of eggs, but they're lazy and eat an awful lot!

KKH all creatures which are predated rather than predator only show signs of illness when they are in extremis, so don't beat yourself up about it. (Nature makes them this way as sick stragglers are the ones which get eaten). Sheep are much the same.....they are at death's door before you know they are ill.

Urte....love those babies....you must post pics. as they feather out.

I have two Naked Fleches, adopted by Brahma mama.....I haven't studied them in great detail yet, but one has a little 'snout' and a flat area where a comb will develop.

Meanwhile, Marvin, who is 3 weeks old today (hatched on the incubator from a stone cold 'term' egg after ?a squirrel got into the broody pen and caused mum to leave her hatching eggs) is looking VERY big for his age

 

[queenchick16]

Re: recent sex ratio talks.. sexed a group of 22 NN bantams last week.  Only 3, yes THREE females...?!  what are the odds of that? 

6 of 6 Roos and I can't keep one of them.

 

[aoxa]

Sorry you are experiencing this.      From past experience, the signs of heat stressed birds are:  not wanting to move even when you are trying to force them... when they do move, it is as if they are drunk...  very excessive panting, eyes looking off, either dilated or constricted.   It doesn't seem like you are seeing any of those signs.. plus don't recall any heat stressed birds dying at night, it was during the hottest or in the evening of a particularly hot day.      Birds handle daytime heat better if the nights go below 70-75 or so at night.. they disspate the excess heat over night.  it's when the nights are above 80-90 that heat suspectible birds start to have problems as they struggle to cool down their body core at all. (does the coop cool down a lot through the night or holds heat?)

If there's a bird with above symptoms- immediately cool them down, cold packs, soaked and frozen hand towels to their breasts/ under the wings..  hosing them down to the skin under the wings and breasts has worked...   some people freeze water in plastic bottles and lay them around the coop(also done for rabbits).

I hose mine down as well, and that really helps. If you can, cold treats (ie: cold melon) also really helps.

Sorry to hear this My temperatures are quite desirable in comparison. Days are in the 80's and nights are in the 50's & 60's, but I still worry about my bigger girls (cochins).

 

[NewToFarming]

KKH... I am so sorry for your losses. I have noticed my older NN girls seem to have struggled the most during the highest heat. I would put the ice jugs in with them and they would lay up against them. They also loved the moistened chicken feed I would mix up with very cold water. I think that helped cool them down in addition to fans & hosing everything down to help bring the coop temps down.

PGPoultry... I have this suspicion that Marvin will be quite the spoiled little guy?? It is good to see him doing so well!