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I haven't had worms for years lol. SorryIf you don't have health problems, I wouldn't recommend deworming at all.
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I haven't had worms for years lol. SorryIf you don't have health problems, I wouldn't recommend deworming at all.
Hi there, welcome to BYC!I like using diatomaceous earth for all my critters, just mix it in the feed for several days. You can find it at feed stores and amazon - use a mask when handling it because it can cause respiratory problems.
As much as I don't like DE and it isn't welcome here.. the statement that it's worthless is a broad statement that is factually not true.DE is worthless. It does nothing but get your chickens sick. They have poor respiratory systems and breathing in tiny sharp edges will just make micro cuts in their lungs.
I was trying to say it in a less offensive way, online chatting can be difficult to interpret when there are no facial expressions and voice tones to read! I just wanted to make it clear it was not at all a good idea to use DE with chickens and that there is a whole misconception that it’s miracle food. I was putting in the things that I know are bad about DE, including the fact that it is dangerous to breath in, and does not help with worms. I admit I was trying to prove my point and I came off a little strongly but I hope you understand. There are ways you can use it but I believe that with your chickens, putting it in dust bathes, dusting your chickens with it, and making them breathe it in is a terrible idea as they have poor respiratory systems and it can lead to plenty of issues.As much as I don't like DE and it isn't welcome here.. the statement that it's worthless is a broad statement that is factually not true.
It has many uses and is effective at them in many locations and for many people.. despite not working as in internal anti-parasitic agent and also not being effective in MY location against any species due to high humidity. This why there is such a disparity between right and left.. SMH.
Folks let's learn to balance our reality instead of blowing things out of proportion and buying into headline BS without searching deeper and deciding for ourselves what the truth is. Get all the facts and try not to bully people or fear monger them into your same perspective. And TRY to make accurate statements.. that can be verified instead of argued against.![]()
Well, that's not what you said, almost none of it actually.. it didn't come off strongly to me.. it came off as misinformed (NO rudeness intended here please).. and so I was JUST trying to share with you that even without smiley faces etc.. we can still attract more flies with honey than vinegar.. and broad untrue statements are... LIES that just make them incredible (huh, never thought incredible meant not believable before now). The great thing about this type of stuff.. is it gives me a chance to review my own approach and has grown me into a more well rounded person and ultimately not a ranting hot wind bag like some folks (in my life locally) who must talk above everyone else to get their point out and only focus on headlines refusing to look at the WHOLE situation.I was trying to say it in a less offensive way, online chatting can be difficult to interpret when there are no facial expressions and voice tones to read! I just wanted to make it clear it was not at all a good idea to use DE with chickens and that there is a whole misconception that it’s miracle food. I was putting in the things that I know are bad about DE, including the fact that it is dangerous to breath in, and does not help with worms. I admit I was trying to prove my point and I came off a little strongly but I hope you understand. There are ways you can use it but I believe that with your chickens, putting it in dust bathes, dusting your chickens with it, and making them breathe it in is a terrible idea as they have poor respiratory systems and it can lead to plenty of issues.
Thank you for your reply. There are so many conflicting views on this garlic it's so hard to work out which is right way.
I cook a tiny amount into scraps of vegetables adding the crumbs and layers feed, but only use the garlic one a week of fortnightly.![]()
Anything in ridiculously high volume can be dangerous. If you ate nothing but carrots for a month you would be seriously ill. That doesn't make carrots 'a deadly substance' such that you shouldn't eat them!There are sulfuric compounds in garlic, that at moderate to high doses can cause severe hemolysis,( also know as rupturing of the red blood cells (RBC's). Which can subsequently result in anemia. There have been cases of deadly toxicosis because of direct ingestion of these compounds,
"Fatal toxicity has been described in geese fed large amounts of green onions as well as one conure fed large amounts of garlic."
https://lafeber.com/vet/wp-content/uploads/Unsafe-Foods.pdf
I think the word Oleander has already been brought up here, but I think that's a good example. There are several benefits to oleander (used for several different conditions), and as may know there are also several fatal side effects of consuming oleander.
It probably would not be the best idea, for the well-being of other people in gereral, for me to post an article without mentioning the side effects of oleander consumption only the positives. The same case is with galic, and it's sad because you see articles often mentioned like this one here, which states all the benefits of garlic, but fails to address the possible side effects of garlic consumption in birds.
https://www.researchgate.net/public...lic_on_the_health_and_performance_of_broilers
So when we scrape it down to the bare metal, and just look at the situation as whole. Why are we taking the risk of feeding bird garlic? It just doesn't make sense to me, but, of course, you have the right to think what you want, just as the same with me. I do feel I need to respond when I see someone suggesting garlic, because it is a deadly substance with birds.