NPIP Certification

[Sethc]

Hi, I have been thinking for some time now about becoming NPIP certified, but I have found very little information outside of BYC. The documents that I have found say that the area the hatcher and incubator is in has to be clean and everything around the flock has to be clean. When reading that what comes to mind some sort of setup like a hospital. I would assume it is not as bad as I fear, but what about those of us who have incubators and hatchers in a garage or room in the house, and don't have a special setup? Will something like that pass the testing or do I need some type of special setup that will cost me an arm and a leg.

Any information would be great, because I feel like I am just shooting in the dark and hoping to hit something.

 

[RiegelExchange]

Hello Everyone. I'd like to posts my "2 cents" worth on this topic. After reading all the relevant documents I could find on this topic, I must say I am disappointed overall. Other than one poster from Ohio it seems most everyone seems to believe that this is something you/I MUST do in order to be legal to sell our eggs, hatching eggs and/or poultry of any age.

First off, the NPIP was established back in the late 1930s as "law" under the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). It is not something new, though many federal and state regulators would like us to think that it is of late.

As with almost all legal language, wording is explicit unless otherwise and clearly stated as such. Furthur, unless or until Congress changes this law to explicitely state this is mandatory, IT IS NOT. Neither may a state add to or take away from what is explicitely stated within this law. The state does have leveraging room to shape it somewhat to their own liking, and that is why we see so much variation from state to state.

Back to the legal language used in this law in the CFR, I would offer the following section of the actual law with specific attention to the bolded text ( I did this bolding ) "may participate".

"§ 145.3 Participation.
(a) Any person producing or dealing in products
may participate in the Plan when he has demonstrated,
to the satisfaction of the Official State Agency,
that his facilities, personnel, and practices are adequate
for carrying out the applicable provisions of the
Plan, and has signed an agreement with the Official
State Agency to comply with the general and the applicable
specific provisions of the Plan and any regulations
of the Official State Agency under §145.2.".

Nowhere within this law can I find where it states anything within this law is "mandatory" for anyone to "comply" with this law. Folks, this is an OFFER to contract, nothing more, nothing less. It may offer perks for someone who wishes to do so, but for the average Joe and Jane it does not.

The reason it was not made mandatory for the average man, woman, human being, back in the 1930s unto present was because the government KNOWS it does not have a lawful right to do so based on the Constitutional mandate regarding OUR right to unfettered contract plain and simple.

I am sorry, but I get really distressed when I see people in their ignorance volunteering in ignorance to throw their God-given unalienable rights our Founders fought and died for right out the window. We have precious few left to us as it is due to this same ignorance working legally to gain a democratic majority to the point they CAN make it a 'presumed' mandate to enforce things legally, though they have no force in Law.

Wake up people! Read the Law! Read your Constitution, federal and state. Unless this code will specifically benefit your operation and is worth the loss of your freedom and the increased expense and regulation of an ever increasing degree of your personal/private business functions, you DO NOT need this.

Specifics are as follows:
United States Department of Agriculture
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
APHIS 91–55–088 July 2011

Title: National Poultry Improvement Plan and Auxiliary Provisions
as of March 22, 2011 as found in the Code of Federal Regulations
Title 9, Animals and Animal Products
Parts 145–147 and Part 56

Note: This copy of the National Poultry Improvement Plan (NPIP) and Auxiliary Provisions as it appears in the electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) is provided for information only. The official e-CFR is available on the U.S. Government Printing Office (GPO) Web site at http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/ and is updated daily. The official print version of the Code of Federal Regulations is updated annually and is available through the GPO Web site at www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/.

Blessings to all .... Laurence Gilbert

 

[3riverschick]

And welcome to BYC !

Best,
Karen

 

[RiegelExchange]

Thank you Karen. I am glad to be here.

 

[crazychick1977]

Hello all,
Where do you find information on what all you need to do to become NPIP cert.
What did you have to do?
I think I read it lasts 5 years at a time? cost?
And if you buy or bring any birds that are not from npip flocks than yours becomes null and void?
Is it the same as pulloreum testing?
Does someone come to your farm?
Does your palce have to be prestine? I am imagining a million dollar set up.....
Since there may be laws we may or may not be aware of what, are the pros and cons of becoming NPIP cert?

There are always so many laws and loop holes it makes it almost hard to do anything because you don't know if you may or may not be breaking a law somewhere.

Any insights are greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Angela

Here's what I've found in Indiana:
-You can go to your state's Poultry Association website to find information on how to become a certified blood tester.
-You have to take a class to learn how to administer the tests and properly read the results.
-Certification lasts for 3 years (the first time you take the class in person and re-certifications can be done online).
-After being certified, you will be able to test any new birds you bring in before you add them to your flock
-Pullorum Typhoid is one of the diseases tested for
-Certification empowers the flock owner to test and maintain their own stock without having someone come out and do it for you.
-No one will judge you on the state of your coop, but as always, you'll want to provide a healthy environment for your flock- tested or not.
-It is not a law that your flock has to be tested, although, it is required for exhibition purposes.

(An old thread, but still a good question!)

 

[1hellian]

Anyone Know where I start in Indiana? I would like to get mine certified by next year

 

[crazychick1977]

Anyone Know where I start in Indiana? I would like to get mine certified by next year

You can go to the Indiana State Poultry Association website to get information and sign up. The next classes aren't until April 2015, so plenty of time to prepare. I'm planning on going myself!

Here's a link to the info:

http://inpoultry.org/classroomBTS.cfm

 

[mrshawman]

My question is this. I have a small flock of free range barnyard mix laying hens. I also breed 5 different pure blood breeds. Do I have to have my free rangers tested also or can I get certified by just testing my breeding stock? I live in KY. Thanks

 

[LynneP]

Hope this helps- http://www.poultryimprovement.org/statesContent.cfm

 

[Sylviaanne]

I am in Missouri and just reading this thread. I am on page 3 so am new to this information.

Without looking it up, does anyone know if I can ship eggs for incubation without any kind of certification?

Also, can pullorum disease and fowl typhoid be transmitted or carried on the eggs that are shipped? Thanks.


Another question: Anyone know where I would look to become one of these testers?