Osteoporosis

[Sally PB]

A lot of the dangling threads are resonating with a lot of things I already knew and/or believe. I'm not ready to buy the program but I think I can find at least some of the information she found. If enough of it checks out, I will strongly consider buying the program to get a faster start and to lower the risk of missing something.

I am really tired at the moment, so now is not a good time for me to buy stuff online. I read through (mostly) the link to the Osteoporosis Reversal Program, and would seriously consider the $67 or even $97 package. The $397 package, eh, no.

Have you heard/read any more about anything like this? I'm due for my yearly physical in July. I can't remember if I get a bone density scan every year or every ___ years, so I don't know if that's coming up. I did have one last summer, and the diagnosis was osteopenia.

 

[saysfaa]

I haven't looked any further. I'll let you know if/when I do.

 

[saysfaa]

Fyi, if you get a "screening" and they find what they are screening for then it becomes a "diagnostic" instead of a screening. Which means you pay for it because only screenings are covered.

Any screening, not just bone density.
When I went in when it was originally scheduled (last Jan or first week of Feb.) there was an estimated amount for my share. I thought screenings were covered and this was a screening. So I called the insurance company who agreed. The rep told me no charge and that he put that in the notes. That took longer than my appointment time, so I rescheduled and did the test in March.

And now have a bill for $350 for it (they covered about $180 of it).

After a long talk with the person at the call center I decided to try starting with what code the dr put on it. Evidently this is how it works now because the person at the doctor's office said the same thing just happened to her at a different hospital network. She spent six weeks fighting it before giving up.

I didn't think to ask if she had the same insurance so I don't know if it is just mine. I think it is probably not just mine because what an insurance company can do is pretty tightly controlled.

 

[Sally PB]

Fyi, if you get a "screening" and they find what they are screening for then it becomes a "diagnostic" instead of a screening. Which means you pay for it because only screenings are covered.

I remember being told something like that too. As far as I know, my yearly physical, mammogram, and bone density scan are all covered in full. I do pay a small amount for the blood work on the physical.

DH and I just paid for some additional testing, checking neck arteries for plaque, abdominal aneurisms, and I can't remember the other two. Results in about a week. Ignorance can be bliss, or deadly, I suppose.

 

[saysfaa]

https://discernreport.com/why-the-new-york-times-advises-complete-avoidance-of-sunshine/

I would prefer a more positive title but the info on the advantages of sun exposure, how to do it safely, and the risks of avoiding the sun are well worth the read.

I avoided the sun pretty much entirely for many years. I think it was a mistake.

 

[Pollo Blanco]

According to the Salt Solution cookbook, "...When sodium intake increases, calcium excretion increases. Researchers think that your body leeches calcium from your bones to replace the calcium lost and keep your blood calcium levels stable. High-salt diets have been shown to increase calcium loss by an average of 20 to 60 milligrams of calciumlost for every 2,300 milligrams of sodium ingested."
And
"US dietary guidelines recently [book published 2011] recommended that the general population eat no more than 1,500 milligrams of sodium a day (about 2/3 teaspoon of table salt)... Instead Americans on average consume 3,436 milligrams od sodium daily."

I missed this so far. I was cutting back on salt because I saw staying hydrated is important. That is easier without extra salt.

I lost most of my sense of smell as a freshman in college. I think I probably have eaten much more salt than even the average American because salty is one of the few things I can taste. And I liked salty even before college.

Sigh. I had no idea high salt could affect bones.

I found it looking for things my son in law can eat. He recently found out he has very little kidney function left... and it gets progressively worse. Best hope is to slow the process.

They are very frustrated. Most "low sodium" and "low potassium" "recipes" just leave the salt out of recipes designed to have it. And/or use smaller serving sizes to get the amount per serving down. Not helpful.

Dr Brownstien has a book on salt. I really enjoyed reading it, as I am a 'salt head'!
Gray Celtic sea salt is my favorite!

 

[Sally PB]

I stopped automatically salting my food in college. The college food service food was plenty salty, to me. I still rarely salt my food, rice being one exception.

A friend of mine uses so much salt... before even tasting anything. (shudder)

 

[Pollo Blanco]

I stopped automatically salting my food in college. The college food service food was plenty salty, to me. I still rarely salt my food, rice being one exception.

A friend of mine uses so much salt... before even tasting anything. (shudder)

I Always thought that the food service had enough salt in the foods.
After reading Dr Brownstien's book on iodine, I purchased the book on salt.
I can remember as a kid that the neighbors bought sea salt at the Co-op and I preferred it to processed table salt.

Just a guesstimate, but I am pretty sure that I have ten types of salt in my house.

But anyway, I just let my pallat determine how much salt I eat, and I know that it varies.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ssify-your-style.1586587/page-3#post-26990699

 

[saysfaa]

This source says the skin of eggplant promotes bone density. And has many other benefits.n

Nasunin is what provides the benefits - or one of the things that provides the benefits. The source above have a link to peer-reviewed papers about this.

We tried eggplant in the garden for the first time this year. I've never cooked with so it has been a learning experience in many ways.

We like roasted better than sautéed. Usually, I've halved them, drizzled avocado oil on the cut edges, roasted them, and then scraped the insides out to serve it because that is what the recipe says.

Tonight, we served that as they came from the oven. After I accidently ate the skin, we looked up how edible it is. Skin and seeds are very nutritious and beneficial according to many websites.

We grew Ping Tung Long variety.

 

[saysfaa]

All spring and summer, I did pretty well at getting vitamin D by exposing my arms and legs to sunlight.

I'm willing to get cold to get Vit D via sunlight but the cloud cover has consistently been too thick to allow that. Besides, the sun has to be high enough in the sky or it won't matter if the sunshine reaches the skin. If it is high enough at all at this latitude, it isn't for very long.

I knew this was coming but didn't prioritize a solution.

Broad-spectrum artificial light is one possible solution.

Taking Vit D is another.

I'm currently reading "Ulta-Processed People" by Chris Tulleken. I think he is a doctor in UK. Anyway, he mentions that "...cod liver oil was and is one of the very few edible sources of significant levels of Vit D."

Until I get to more information, I'm going to take cod liver oil.

My dad gave us a spoonful. Once. I can manage the taste, I think. But the aftertaste so many times - uggh. So I will order capsules. My professor taught it matters that cod liver oil is the fish version of what is "first press" and "cold pressed" in olive oil. Especially, not extracted via solvents. I can't remember if Norwegian cod liver oil is preferred because it is easier to find that type of extraction or if there were other reasons it is better.

I could dig out my notes to figure it out again but I have other priorities in the near future. I will just go with what I choose last time - vitamix?, vitamax?,

Cur sedd search engines who won't give different results for different key words, or even different results on later pages.

I'll dig out the records of the order from ten years ago and still take less time than figuring it out again. It isn't ideal but it is better than my alternatives. I really need a for-sure effective source of Vit D.