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[BDutch]

do you eat chicken after culling or you just cull? I would not eat meat with any chemicals.

I don't butcher. friends do it for me. one of the reasons I started a farm is to provide (biological) food for me. I don't want to eat proteins that come from fly worms or similar.

I don’t eat chicken.
I do not kill chickens or want other people do it for me.
I only want to help a sick chicken who is badly ill and will die anyway. Sure this will happen again one day. Sooner or later.

A few years ago I had a hen with a belly infection ,probably EYP. I knew she was in pain and would die from it. It felt bad I didn’t now how to help her. I was glad she didn’t have to suffer very long and died 2 days after knowing something was very wrong with her. Glad I know now what to do, if something similar happens again.

The thread + link to the article I was referring to:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/humane-way-of-culling-chicken.1615875/page-6#post-28513157

 

[BDutch]

.. recently I have bought yogurt with 10% fat. as it tasted really bad I read the label. fat didn't come from milk but from palm oil. I felt happy I have got goats and will have MY milk soon.

The food industry messes way too much with our food.
Palm oil is cheap bc of the plantations that destroyed rainforest and cheap labour.

I do eat milk products and eggs. Certainly dont like the UPC either. But bc I don’t want to eat meat, its very convenient to buy veggie burgers and other vegetarian substitutes for meat in the supermarket. There is a lot of choice in meat alternatives to make a quick veggie or vegan meal in all the supermarkets in the Netherlands.

I do read the labels and if there are strange or too many ingredients on the list I choose something better.

 

[chickengr]

The food industry messes way too much with our food.
Palm oil is cheap bc of the plantations that destroyed rainforest and cheap labour.

I do eat milk products and eggs. Certainly dont like the UPC either. But bc I don’t want to eat meat, its very convenient to buy veggie burgers and other vegetarian substitutes for meat in the supermarket. There is a lot of choice in meat alternatives to make a quick veggie or vegan meal in all the supermarkets in the Netherlands.

I do read the labels and if there are strange or too many ingredients on the list I choose something better.

unfortunately the low does not insist they list origins of proteins or every single ingredient. or, for example, biological food is anything that is 67 % (or so) biological. when I read that low about 10 years ago I stopped wasting money on biological food. I know that veggies in my garden are 100% biological.

 

[BDutch]

unfortunately the low does not insist they list origins of proteins or every single ingredient. or, for example, biological food is anything that is 67 % (or so) biological. when I read that low about 10 years ago I stopped wasting money on biological food. I know that veggies in my garden are 100% biological.

Every country has its own rules and regulations about what the supermarkets and the feed industry may sell as organic.
In my country it has to be 100% except for some additives.

 

[chickengr]

Every country has its own rules and regulations about what the supermarkets and the feed industry may sell as organic.
In my country it has to be 100% except for some additives.

here apply all the european laws. they change all the time. google it as I did and check it.

edit to add:
btw, I was looking for the law about biological and free range eggs. free range eggs according to the low mean that chickens must be left out for 2-3 hours a day. it does not say how much space for each chicken or that they have to have access to some greens.

 

[BDutch]

here apply all the european laws. they change all the time. google it as I did and check it.

edit to add:
btw, I was looking for the law about biological and free range eggs. free range eggs according to the low mean that chickens must be left out for 2-3 hours a day. it does not say how much space for each chicken or that they have to have access to some greens.

Again, this is completely different from the rules and regulations we have here.

In normal circumstances the space requirements for organic hens/eggs:
Inside max 6 hens per square meter, outside one hen per four square meters.
Poultry has at least one third of life – or at least eight hours a day – access to the outside (during restrictions the run)

Because outside on grass is a no go during the contagious bird flu period the outside rules change, the chickens have to be covered.

This is what a farmer told in an interview on hofman.nl:
Organic chicken farmer Tjitske de Boer from Friesland: “The chickens have not been allowed to go outside for months now. As a result, I see in the barn that the chickens more often show restless behavior, you could call it stress. As a chicken keeper, you try to counteract this by offering as much distraction as possible, for example by spreading more often, bales of green food on the hangings where the chickens can pick in, and being creative with creating covered runs, so that the chickens still have as much space as possible. And get outside air. But shuffling outside on grass or between the trees, that's really not in it now.”

 

[chickengr]

Again, this is completely different from the rules and regulations we have here.

In normal circumstances the space requirements for organic hens/eggs:
Inside max 6 hens per square meter, outside one hen per four square meters.
Poultry has at least one third of life – or at least eight hours a day – access to the outside (during restrictions the run)

Because outside on grass is a no go during the contagious bird flu period the outside rules change, the chickens have to be covered.

This is what a farmer told in an interview on hofman.nl:
Organic chicken farmer Tjitske de Boer from Friesland: “The chickens have not been allowed to go outside for months now. As a result, I see in the barn that the chickens more often show restless behavior, you could call it stress. As a chicken keeper, you try to counteract this by offering as much distraction as possible, for example by spreading more often, bales of green food on the hangings where the chickens can pick in, and being creative with creating covered runs, so that the chickens still have as much space as possible. And get outside air. But shuffling outside on grass or between the trees, that's really not in it now.”

I have about 110-120 ducks, geese and chickens on 2000 m2. I sometimes let them out to additional 1000 m2. no migratory birds here. their routes are at least 50 km from here.

 

[BDutch]

I have about 110-120 ducks, geese and chickens on 2000 m2. I sometimes let them out to additional 1000 m2. no migratory birds here. their routes are at least 50 km from here.

Here its law and order by and for the farming industry. Its forbidden for farmers to free range chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys or other poultry.

A NL map with hpai birds (wild)

The list with clearings after diagnosed contamination with HPAI :
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/vogelgriep/besmettingen-vogelgriep-bij-bedrijven

The last clearing (from our gov) :
Bird flu detected in Putten
News item | 19-03-2025 | 14:31
In Putten (municipality of Putten, province of Gelderland), bird flu has been diagnosed on a turkey farm. To prevent the spread of the virus, the approximately 27,000 animals at the location are being cleared by the Dutch Food and Consumer Product Safety Authority (NVWA).

There are no other poultry farms in the 1-kilometer zone. Within the 3-kilometer zone are 12 other poultry farms that are screened by the NVWA and monitored by the Animal Health Service. There are 62 other poultry farms in the 10-kilometer zone.

Ban on transport
In the entire 10-kilometer zone, where a total of 74 other companies are located, a transport ban applies with immediate effect. This means that poultry and hatching and drinking eggs may not be transported from locations with birds in this zone. There is also a ban on the disposal of manure from birds and used litter and for other animals and animal products from farms with birds. These measures are necessary to prevent spread to other parts of the country.

 

[Zsuzzzs]

Hi all!
I'm from Hungary and I'm looking for other European members of the 'Flock'
Here there's not a lot of purebred chickens, everyone want everything to be cheap, so I wanted to see how other countries are doing and probably at the end maybe buy some hatching eggs if the needs meet
Breeds I'm looking for currently
BC Marans with really dark eggs
Lavender Marans
Speckled Sussex
Bresse
Thank you!

 

[fluffycrow]

Welcome!