Pipping but not zipping

[Jinglebells0518]

Bill was near the hole. No signs of breathing

 

[WVduckchick]

Bill was near the hole. No signs of breathing

Dangit! Looks like it maybe started trying to zip and gave up.

 

[Jinglebells0518]

Should we open it?

 

[Jinglebells0518]

There is a mucusy membrane is that OK to pull away?

 

[Jinglebells0518]

When they give up zipping how do they just die?

 

[WVduckchick]

There is a mucusy membrane is that OK to pull away?

Yep, if you are sure its no longer breathing, you can open it up.

When they give up zipping how do they just die?

Most likely suffocated from being upside down, lack of air flow, fluid around the nostrils... several possibilities.

I'm so sorry.

 

[Jinglebells0518]

Well he still hadn't even absorbed his yolk all the way so even if he had zipped he wouldn't have been ready to come out. Not sure what happened. The airsac was in the small end for sure though. You can see the shadow in the membrane picture.

The other one still has visible vessels with candeling but not sure why he would be so far behind. Should I turn the temperature back up and start rotation again for him? Saw movement this morning but nothing this afternoon yet

 

[Kiki]

 

[Jinglebells0518]

Also here is the other dilemma. Our duck laid one more egg on Saturday morning. We are contemplating trying to hatch that one but we would need to start soon as the range for having the best survival chance is coming up quickly. However our other egg isn't done hatching and is kind of in lock down now if not soon. We only have one incubator so we aren't sure if we could start the one yet since the temperature, rotation, and humidity levels are different. Which stats would we use

 

[WVduckchick]

Well he still hadn't even absorbed his yolk all the way so even if he had zipped he wouldn't have been ready to come out. Not sure what happened. The airsac was in the small end for sure though. You can see the shadow in the membrane picture.

The other one still has visible vessels with candeling but not sure why he would be so far behind. Should I turn the temperature back up and start rotation again for him? Saw movement this morning but nothing this afternoon yet

Looks very gooey, like maybe humidity was too high throughout the process. Or it could be because of setting them pointy end up.

My guess as to why it actually pipped, it may have been trying to turn to get into position. Then just couldn't complete the process.

The other one, can you maybe get a candling pic when you get a chance?