Pomeranian Goose Breed Thread

[DuckRaiser]

I love geese so much! I want some also, I think there probably nice, sweet, soft hearted birds if you raise them right. I think there's no reason to NOT like them! I love them!

 

[gardengoats11]

On the topic of single and doubled lobed, how difficult is it to breed out the double lobe to have a single lobe? How soon can you identify if a gosling is single or double lobed?

Just getting back into geese and want to have geese that meet the SOP and breed to the SOP.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

The geese or my kids because herding either one is a job and my kids (like most these days) seem to have eaten their fill of ego in their fructose laced cereal.

Good news; Calliope is FINALLY sitting her nest! Gosh I never thought she would. Now to cross my fingers and hope she hatches a few. I know there is some fertility because I snatched a few eggs earlier to put in the bator and there is at least one developing. They are in there with a few colored Seb eggs, none labeled. They should hatch a week or two ahead of hers. I wonder if she will raise them all? Thoughts? I have also been told I should take her goslings for about a week or two so they are human-friendly/tolerant. Again... thoughts?

I have several that have proper single lobes. Selecting for that can be tricky though, since sometimes juvenile females will seem to have double lobes until after their first laying season:Then the middle lobe develops according to some of the experts I have spoken with. So, that leaves selecting for markings and bill/leg/shank/foot coloration first and then culling for lobes after the first season for females. At least the males can be eliminated from the flock usually by the time they are 6 months.

Due to all the Embden that has been crossed into the Pomeranian, in order to attain larger birds I believe, we have a long road ahead to return the breed to standard. I figure I will be at it for years to come, but that's okay: I love them!

 

[1MrsMagoo]

On the topic of single and doubled lobed, how difficult is it to breed out the double lobe to have a single lobe? How soon can you identify if a gosling is single or double lobed?

Just getting back into geese and want to have geese that meet the SOP and breed to the SOP.

This is one of the juvenile females (out of Kawonu's stock) that I had for this season (photo from late last fall...she was about 7 months). Good lobe, great markings, nice body size and type, but way too orange on the bill/shank/feet.

I mated her up with my best marked male from my line that had great bill/leg/foot coloration. So far, the babies are all popping way to orange on the bill/legs/feet from this paring: I got one so far that is a keeper.

As to lobes, with the males, you will be able to tell about lobes for sure by the time they are 4-6 months old. The females seem to take longer.

It is just going to take patience and probably years of selective breeding to get the birds back where they are suppose to be. Either that, or find a flock with more German blood in them and start with those, which is nearly impossible with the Buffs: I know a few folks with better Greys, some of which even have the pure pink bill/leg/feet.



Here is my lone gander with a pink bill/legs/feet (from Kawonus line). He has too shallow a breast for my liking, so I put him with my the best marked female from my line: She also has the best body type.

 

[ashandvine]

Thank you Ruru and Magoo. (ruru, seen you in the Sebbie Cottage Rose forum too

While I am not interested in rushing into trying to perfect yet another breed her I do like to know what to watch for and be careful about. When I read this at the ALBC site "In North America, however, Pomeranian geese often exhibit two lobes due to crossbreeding and genetic variations" it got me thinking there wasn't much chance for singles anyway.

Magoo, I do like the pink on that b/s you posted with the pink bill. I do not have an SOP for geese, ie "expect more dumb questions." If I get out of the chickens maybe I will redirect my scrutiny to the geese but the truth at this time is that I like them too much to get scientific just yet. I learned from the chickens I should enjoy what I keep and I can't be impersonal about their culling and breeding if I have feelings for them. That tangerine bill is beautiful if you aren't worried about sop saying its too orange. An artistic eye would love that shade! And he's so wide!

Alright... next question (Ruru you are on the spot here) how does one wrangle goslings from a goose and not lose an appendage? And then how do you give them back?

 

[DuckRaiser]

I love geese so much! There so cute! I think that whoever thinks there mean is crazy! I mean, if someone said that I would be like:

. And then I would be like:

. (I would be the red guy)

 

[Fowl Menagerie]

My last batch for this year is coming off today. Have nine hatched already, three eggs left all cracked. Three so far are buff saddles. I am told that since my adults are all grays that the buffs are females. Anybody confirm? This is third batch and have had a few buffs in each batch. Also have 11 new calico cochins hatched yesterday. Probably shutting incubator down for the season. I have had a great season. On a sad note, I put my middle batch out with the adult geese, hoping they would adopt them and relieve me of having to put them up every night. I checked them after dark and they were with the adults in the barn. Next morning 6 of 8 were missing and unable to find them. No feathers, no blood, no anything. Following day three adult calls missing. Same scenario. This is one of those moments where you know that you knew better, but you did it anyway. totally my fault. Live and hopefully learn..

 

[RURU]

Yes, ashandvine I bounce back and forth on the forums.

 

[RugenerGooser]

The geese or my kids because herding either one is a job and my kids (like most these days) seem to have eaten their fill of ego in their fructose laced cereal.

Good news; Calliope is FINALLY sitting her nest! Gosh I never thought she would. Now to cross my fingers and hope she hatches a few. I know there is some fertility because I snatched a few eggs earlier to put in the bator and there is at least one developing. They are in there with a few colored Seb eggs, none labeled. They should hatch a week or two ahead of hers. I wonder if she will raise them all? Thoughts? I have also been told I should take her goslings for about a week or two so they are human-friendly/tolerant. Again... thoughts?

No, L...the kids helping herd. They are better trained that my son who I still get after to pick up his wrappers, etc. He is eleven.

 

[RugenerGooser]

My last batch for this year is coming off today. Have nine hatched already, three eggs left all cracked. Three so far are buff saddles. I am told that since my adults are all grays that the buffs are females. Anybody confirm? This is third batch and have had a few buffs in each batch. Also have 11 new calico cochins hatched yesterday. Probably shutting incubator down for the season. I have had a great season. On a sad note, I put my middle batch out with the adult geese, hoping they would adopt them and relieve me of having to put them up every night. I checked them after dark and they were with the adults in the barn. Next morning 6 of 8 were missing and unable to find them. No feathers, no blood, no anything. Following day three adult calls missing. Same scenario. This is one of those moments where you know that you knew better, but you did it anyway. totally my fault. Live and hopefully learn..

This is the point where this little Israelite grabs her staff and takes the night watch. Sounds like you have a predator.