Rare white swedish?

[superduckrescue]

View attachment 1779865Here is there first son I can get pictures of cuddle quack and alarm when I get back home

I think if they were peking they would have blue eyes

 

[Pyxis]

We got them from metzer's hatchery alarm is definitely pure because she she is show quality. Cuddle Quack has black spots on bib which is normal in the breed but is still a show quality duck. I have seen it called rare white swedish ducks in Australia

I hope this doesn't come off as rude, apologies if it does, but hatchery ducks are pretty much never show quality. Where did you hear that they were? I go to APA and ABA sanctioned shows, and for fun once I tried entering a welsh harlequin I bought from Holderread, who is an excellent breeder, AND I had paid for ducklings from his Top Show Quality breedings, so this wasn't your run of the mill hatchery duck. He didn't even place in the top five welsh harlequins at the show.

Even when breeding show birds, like Holderread does for their breedings, you're lucky if one in ten is even good enough to enter in a show. With a regular hatchery, like Metzer, even though their quality is better than some other hatcheries because they focus on just waterfowl, I wouldn't consider any ducks from them to be show quality birds that are going to be able to compete at a show.

Have you seen the APA standard and compared them to it?

In a hatchery setting, it's easy for an 'oops' to happen. Probably at some point a cross with a pekin happened, and since the ducklings will still retain the coloration of the swedish in such a case, no one noticed. Plus, crossing to pekins could increase the egg laying capabilities of the swedish, meaning more ducklings, meaning more money, so it's possible it was actually done on purpose.

 

[superduckrescue]

I hope this doesn't come off as rude, apologies if it does, but hatchery ducks are pretty much never show quality. Where did you hear that they were? I go to APA and ABA sanctioned shows, and for fun once I tried entering a welsh harlequin I bought from Holderread, who is an excellent breeder, AND I had paid for ducklings from his Top Show Quality breedings, so this wasn't your run of the mill hatchery duck. He didn't even place in the top five welsh harlequins at the show.

Even when breeding show birds, like Holderread does for their breedings, you're lucky if one in ten is even good enough to enter in a show. With a regular hatchery, like Metzer, even though their quality is better than some other hatcheries because they focus on just waterfowl, I wouldn't consider any ducks from them to be show quality birds that are going to be able to compete at a show.

Have you seen the APA standard and compared them to it?

In a hatchery setting, it's easy for an 'oops' to happen. Probably at some point a cross with a pekin happened, and since the ducklings will still retain the coloration of the swedish in such a case, no one noticed. Plus, crossing to pekins could increase the egg laying capabilities of the swedish, meaning more ducklings, meaning more money, so it's possible it was actually done on purpose.

My flock has one 7 alarm one waterfowl champion at the State Fair of Texas also at Bluebonnet poultry show which is the biggest in Texas and I got the best display at the State Fair yes I have compared them

 

[Pyxis]

My flock has one 7 alarm one waterfowl champion at the State Fair of Texas also at Bluebonnet poultry show which is the biggest in Texas and I got the best display at the State Fair yes I have compared them

Cool So these were APA sanctioned shows with APA trained judges? It's unusual that hatchery ducks will do so well, but that's awesome! And speaks well to Metzer's selection process when they choose their breeders. So in that case, white must have been bred in a long time ago, and then the resulting ducks were bred back to the swedish type. As far as birds are concerned, pedigree doesn't matter, if it looks like a breed, then it is that breed. So in your duck's case, white has probably been in them for a long time, and it just so happened that your two are carrying it. When bred together, tada, white ducklings.

Are you a member of the APA? If you're winning APA sanctioned shows with your birds, you might want to join up if not You accumulate points for wins and can get titles like Master Breeder.

 

[WVduckchick]

I had a flock of Swedish. One was almost solid white, except for a small patch of black just above his tail. And one that was about half black/half white.

 

[FluffTheDuck]

Those are all swedish ducks @WVduckchicks!? Is Hoover hatchery a good hathery that's where I got my blue swedish from

 

[superduckrescue]

Cool So these were APA sanctioned shows with APA trained judges? It's unusual that hatchery ducks will do so well, but that's awesome! And speaks well to Metzer's selection process when they choose their breeders. So in that case, white must have been bred in a long time ago, and then the resulting ducks were bred back to the swedish type. As far as birds are concerned, pedigree doesn't matter, if it looks like a breed, then it is that breed. So in your duck's case, white has probably been in them for a long time, and it just so happened that your two are carrying it. When bred together, tada, white ducklings.

Are you a member of the APA? If you're winning APA sanctioned shows with your birds, you might want to join up if not You accumulate points for wins and can get titles like Master Breeder.

yes they are apa shows and judges i am in 4h

 

[superduckrescue]

I had a flock of Swedish. One was almost solid white, except for a small patch of black just above his tail. And one that was about half black/half white.
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i think thats a arcona duck

 

[FluffTheDuck]

i think thats a arcona duck

I think they are talking about the three ones besides the black and white ones

 

[superduckrescue]

yes. they look like black swedish.