hi all ,glad i missed out the on breeding on the man fighting thing, i do no put up with manfighter at all around here thay are dead . in my opinion it starts in the brood pin just like anything else feathers,legs,body,color, ( my opinion ) chickens are not way like dogs . a chicken brain is size of a pea a dog well i think you get were this going . mike fis. p.s. people think fowl are like dogs ,cats,horses, and so on thay are nothing more than fowl to me i love the blood lines i have had over he years bad traits are breed in or out and i have made my share of them breeding mistakes believe me , i have be lucky enuff to meet some of the best breeders in my time and some that was not that big and all are friends in sport to me . try this i have a mel sims black hen kills every chick she hatches breed her to a cock i have had for over 20 years good family in every way now the stag hits the wire everytime you walk by . so my fault for trying that . but like someone said we are here to learn so i gave the stag to a young man last week he said he would handle him down , we will see ....................again mike fis.