Tell Me This Is Not CL

[DellaMyDarling]

I want to put this here for Googling hopefuls.
This is an affordable option, in my opinion.
I did contact the above linked CA lab, and did not hear back yet to answer my questions regarding sending a sample in.

https://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/cae,clandjohne's.html
I called the 1800 number listed on this page. It is out of service but redirects you to:
512-964-3927

I spoke to a human!
$45 for the culture, to determine what it is.
The culturette swab will cost around $15 if you request from them, or you can call local vet or DR offices for one. Might cost a few dollars.
Send your sample US priority mail, Exemption Animal Specimen.
There is a culture submission form, you can locate by going to the main page of the website above.

Now what I need to do is get the sample!
I'm hoping I can stick her with a needle and pull material, but that's likely to fail. I will likely need to lance and drain, treat the whole thing as a wound. That's messy, and big risks.
Oh boy. Always something new on a farm.

 

[cassie]

I called a long time ADGA judge and asked her about wattles in Nigerians. She couldn't remember if they ever had them either, but she said this is something she wouldn't have noticed. There isn't any reason why they couldn't or wouldn't have them.

 

[cassie]

I want to put this here for Googling hopefuls.
This is an affordable option, in my opinion.
I did contact the above linked CA lab, and did not hear back yet to answer my questions regarding sending a sample in.

https://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/cae,clandjohne's.html
I called the 1800 number listed on this page. It is out of service but redirects you to:
512-964-3927

I spoke to a human!
$45 for the culture, to determine what it is.
The culturette swab will cost around $15 if you request from them, or you can call local vet or DR offices for one. Might cost a few dollars.
Send your sample US priority mail, Exemption Animal Specimen.
There is a culture submission form, you can locate by going to the main page of the website above.

Now what I need to do is get the sample!
I'm hoping I can stick her with a needle and pull material, but that's likely to fail. I will likely need to lance and drain, treat the whole thing as a wound. That's messy, and big risks.
Oh boy. Always something new on a farm.

What risk? Although you didn't ask, I will tell you how to lance an abscess. Heaven knows I have done a bunch of them. Before you begin it is best to clip the area. This isn't absolutely necessary but it keeps thing s lot cleaner and makes it easier to work. Tie the animal up short in an area where the other goats do not have access and where there is a hose with running water available. Take a sharp instrument, such as a new razor blade and make a bold incision. Catch the pus with paper towels and put them in a paper bag that you will later burn. Express all the pus you can with the towels and put those in the bag also. Now, hose out the interior of the abscess with running water. Hose off any pus that is on the goat also. Make sure you get it all out. Now fill up the empty sac with 7% iodine and slosh it around. You can also use peroxide but I used iodine. Let the iodine drain off and puff in some WonderDust if you have or can get it. It contains alum and it will help dry up and heal the abscess. WonderDust is found in the horse aisle of the feed store. That is it. The next day open the abscess, express any pus (usually there isn't any) and repeat the iodine or peroxide and WonderDust treatment. Repeat this until the abscess is healed. This will be just a very few days. The reason for this is if you allow the abscess to just seal over, it will abscess again. You must make sure it heals from the inside out and not from the outside in. I am assuming the abscess is ripe and ready to be lanced. Ripe abscesses will have a soft spot you can feel and the hair may be thinner there. By the way, there is a CL vaccine for both goats and sheep available from Jeffers, Premier One and caprinesupply.com. I didn't check anywhere else.

 

[Cristenn]

@cassie I would like all the info on this you could send please. Want to be prepared if ever needed. Please send to my pm.

 

[Judi Wiseman]

It looks like CL. However, no matter what ANYONE tells you, and that includes your vet, CL really isn't all that big a deal. It can be controlled and eradicated. It does take persistence and commitment, however. When I started breeding goats in the late 60's many herds, including mine were infected with it. You could not go to a show of any size without seeing a goat or two with abscesses. I managed to get rid of CL and the other breeders I know did it too, and we didn't cull CL positive animals either. If you need or want detailed instructions on how to deal with CL, contact me. By the way, the most important thing about controlling the spread of CL is to make sure a ripe abscess doesn't rupture in the barn or corrals where other animals can contact the pus. If you want to know how to lance abscesses so you don't expose other goats I can tell you that, too. I did write up instructions on how to deal with CL and I can send a copy to anyone who wants it. Everything in there has been field tested in multiple herds by multiple breeders. Meaning by doing what it says we got rid of CL and it never came back.

I would like more information on CL absesses. Please send me a pm.
Thank you