The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[aveca]

Yes, Newly pure imported UK Orpingtons or European.

Your comment is even questionable because there is no definate evidence that the Araucana was here in South Ameraucana originally or were brought there at one time by early sea farers.

It really doesn't matter much the only thing that matters is you know who you are getting your birds from personally. Websites are made not bred.

http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=108290

 

[Debbie Hooks]

mmm

 

[deek]

Just now caught up with the posts and pretty birds. Summer and Fall are really busy work wise. Keep the chatter and pictures coming!

 

[rockinpaints]

Just now caught up with the posts and pretty birds. Summer and Fall are really busy work wise. Keep the chatter and pictures coming!

Thank you for checking in Dee!

 

[BamaChicken]

To All:

My post was not to debate what Pure English was...it was to let people know and hopefully educate themselves prior to ANY purchase. I would hate for someone to be taken advantage of because they were like myself when I purchased these babies and just did not know that everything said on the Internet is NOT true. I am only interested in breeding Pure English Orpingtons and with this purchase I did not get what I paid for. When I grew up that was not right. I just ask that breeders not claim to have something they know for CERTAIN they do not have. This type of practice just degrades the Pure English Orpington breed in the United States and sets breeders like myself back almost a year.

Debbie yours may be 100% imported birds. I have no clue where they came from just thinking of my own flock and I know I hatch Orps that are not what I am working for in my imported Englilsh Flock and even though they come out of Orpingtons that are all that you just have some that don't look ( and I hate to use this term because everyone may not be working towards the same goals as others) as good as others.. I have pure imported English that are not as wide as some, tails not as high, legs longer than I like, I breed for width and size and fluff and color and combs the way I like which is lot of all except the comb. They just don't all turn out that way even hatched from the same parentage.
Saying all that just to say maybe the ones you got just were not as good as some of the others would have been from whoevers flock. You cant tell how they are going to look till they get just about grown on some things.
I see a lot of imported Orps of variouis colors that are not what I consider a typey bird . Some folks have to start somewhere with the color so they work with it. Just my humble opinion

 

[OSUman]

I do not usually post anything on BYC but I thought I would share with everyone what is occurring within my flock.

I purchased my flock from a breeder in May 2012 and they were sold as 100% Pure Black English Orpingtons. I have now started hatching from this flock and I have hatched several Mottled/Spangled chicks. Due to this it started me on a journey to investigate the background of my flock. That investigation determined the following:

· In approximately 2008-2009 the breeder that imported this line out crossed the American Mottled/Spangled Orpington into this line to create the Mottled/Spangle Orpington.

· The Pure English Mottled/Spangled Orpington was not imported into the United States until 2011.

Since I have proof that my line is not 100% Pure Black English Orpingtons (see picture of mottled chick) I am wondering about the background of the Black/Blue/Splash Pure English Orpingtons being advertised and sold at auction. I have also included pictures of the parent stock.

That is stress barring.... which is pretty bad if you have that much of it.... If I am wrong about that sell them for $1000 a pair as mottled orpingtons and buy more blacks to replace all of yours and feel lucky for getting $500 birds instead of $50-100

 

[Kiniska]

I want to know how you guys get such fantastic pictures. My birds get right under my feet and I can't get back enough for a good shot. They are little buggers.

 

[rockinpaints]

I want to know how you guys get such fantastic pictures. My birds get right under my feet and I can't get back enough for a good shot. They are little buggers.

VERY NICE

 

[Kiniska]

Thank you. I loves them! I know roos that have been raised together may often be able to stay together if there are plenty of hens. What about adding a rooster to a large flock of hens that already has a roo? I have different pens so I can keep them separate, but I would prefer to keep all my blacks together. What do you all think? Too risky?

 

[thedragonlady]

That is stress barring.... which is pretty bad if you have that much of it.... If I am wrong about that sell them for $1000 a pair as mottled orpingtons and buy more blacks to replace all of yours and feel lucky for getting $500 birds instead of $50-100

Stress barring was my first thought after seeing that photo. It is so even over the feathers that would be molted. However, upon seeing the original seller's mottled chicks, I wonder.