The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

The milk... coats the intestines... and latches on to the coccidia bugs... flushes them through the system .. kinda like putting a straight jacket on them... The chicks develop immunity

as they get older. I still put PM in the adult feed once in a while... Specially if I see anyone with runny poop.
 
Since I bought my 5 choc Orps, I have done nothing special for them. They get the same 16% feed the rest of my flock gets. They get the same water out of the same hose my other birds get. They have been on the ground a few times, but not much. I have given them some Corrid because I thought I saw signs of cocci in one of my birds. I may have imagined it... Anyways, my only other problem was the crop impaction and my boy recovered wonderfully.

I don't want to lose the money I have into them, but I am not going to treat them like they are frail and going to die on me if they aren't treated like royalty. They are birds, after all. So far, as I said, I haven't had many issues with mine. And I have done nothing but the norm. for them.

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Excellent!
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This may be ignorant, but is it possible to keep the English Orps without using more than just good feed and good sense?

My imported Orps are pushing 3 now and I have only ever given them regular water and the same feed that I have given all of my chickens and they have done just fine.

I feed lots of treats from the garden and leftovers from inside but I do not feed them anything special really.

I used to vaccinate for Marek's disease, but I have not on my last few hatches because they have been chicks hatched under a broody. I've heard both pros and cons about vaccinating. Some say you absolutely should vaccinate as it's a preventative for the birds health, others say that by vaccinating you're only weakening the birds immune system by not allowing it to build up it's own resistance. I may vaccinate again in the future when I hatch chicks, I may not. We have never had to deal with Marek's so I feel fotunate. However if I do continue to sell chicks or juvenile birds I will ask the seller if they would like the birds they are buying vaccinated, as I feel it should always at least be an option.

I think a lot of the health issues we're seeing with these newly imported breeds comes down to a small gene pool and inbreeding. How closely related are these birds? Would an outcross to another line make a world of difference? Would production go up? Would vigor increase? Would disease resistance become better?
 
My imported Orps are pushing 3 now and I have only ever given them regular water and the same feed that I have given all of my chickens and they have done just fine.

I feed lots of treats from the garden and leftovers from inside but I do not feed them anything special really.

I used to vaccinate for Marek's disease, but I have not on my last few hatches because they have been chicks hatched under a broody. I've heard both pros and cons about vaccinating. Some say you absolutely should vaccinate as it's a preventative for the birds health, others say that by vaccinating you're only weakening the birds immune system by not allowing it to build up it's own resistance. I may vaccinate again in the future when I hatch chicks, I may not. We have never had to deal with Marek's so I feel fotunate. However if I do continue to sell chicks or juvenile birds I will ask the seller if they would like the birds they are buying vaccinated, as I feel it should always at least be an option.

I think a lot of the health issues we're seeing with these newly imported breeds comes down to a small gene pool and inbreeding. How closely related are these birds? Would an outcross to another line make a world of difference? Would production go up? Would vigor increase? Would disease resistance become better?


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My imported Orps are pushing 3 now and I have only ever given them regular water and the same feed that I have given all of my chickens and they have done just fine.

I feed lots of treats from the garden and leftovers from inside but I do not feed them anything special really.

I used to vaccinate for Marek's disease, but I have not on my last few hatches because they have been chicks hatched under a broody. I've heard both pros and cons about vaccinating. Some say you absolutely should vaccinate as it's a preventative for the birds health, others say that by vaccinating you're only weakening the birds immune system by not allowing it to build up it's own resistance. I may vaccinate again in the future when I hatch chicks, I may not. We have never had to deal with Marek's so I feel fotunate. However if I do continue to sell chicks or juvenile birds I will ask the seller if they would like the birds they are buying vaccinated, as I feel it should always at least be an option.

I think a lot of the health issues we're seeing with these newly imported breeds comes down to a small gene pool and inbreeding. How closely related are these birds? Would an outcross to another line make a world of difference? Would production go up? Would vigor increase? Would disease resistance become better?

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I vaccinated my children with everything the pediatrician recommended. And even though I'm from Georgia, I wouldn't marry a first cousin.
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I guess I'll do the same with my chicken nuggets.
 
My imported Orps are pushing 3 now and I have only ever given them regular water and the same feed that I have given all of my chickens and they have done just fine.

I feed lots of treats from the garden and leftovers from inside but I do not feed them anything special really.

I used to vaccinate for Marek's disease, but I have not on my last few hatches because they have been chicks hatched under a broody. I've heard both pros and cons about vaccinating. Some say you absolutely should vaccinate as it's a preventative for the birds health, others say that by vaccinating you're only weakening the birds immune system by not allowing it to build up it's own resistance. I may vaccinate again in the future when I hatch chicks, I may not. We have never had to deal with Marek's so I feel fotunate. However if I do continue to sell chicks or juvenile birds I will ask the seller if they would like the birds they are buying vaccinated, as I feel it should always at least be an option.

I think a lot of the health issues we're seeing with these newly imported breeds comes down to a small gene pool and inbreeding. How closely related are these birds? Would an outcross to another line make a world of difference? Would production go up? Would vigor increase? Would disease resistance become better?

I have been preaching that for a while now!
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I have nice birds... get lots of eggs and chicks :) Just cull heavy.... keep what you need and share the rest with others that want good healthy birds with English Style :)
 

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