The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

Breeding a quality flock is an art and yes luck plays a part in it too... Not every bird you breed is going to be a world banger.... Do take in consideration too.... it only takes one generation to change the direction of a flock. So just cuz you bought your start from good lines... it is up to you... to carry the touch.

Very much understood.
This is why its important to me to get the best start as possible because I want to continue to breed them correctly. Ive been putting in lots of hours reading and looking at pictures, trying to train my eye on proper type and obvious cull characteristics.

But at the end of the day I rely on you guys to share you knowledge to guide me. So if theres anything you would ever like to share that you feel I must know to really breed good Orps, I am always taking notes
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I sure do get a lot of Credit for birds I don't know anything about. I had someone else on here show a very junky Orp and said it was from Julie Keener and when questioned them they said they got eggs from someone in Oregon. I never sold Orps to anyone in OR. Like I told them those birds might have come down the piked from someone who had some at some time. I can't control what people breed together or keep to breed. Not all birds are perfect from any hatch and that is why you hatch a lot and cull heavy to improve your flock. Look at the birds . I don't keep birds that look like something I don't want . That is why I don't pay attention to who's so called lines they are. People used to do that all the time with Silkies saying this is a well known breeders line so they could sell eggs or chicks. Ask me how I know.
I didnt sell eggs to but one person last year in the Spring and no chicks. I sold a few Cockerels at a show in Jan 2012. If your breeding and hatching them then I consider them your line for whatever that definition in the chicken world is worth. . If you don't know how to cull or what to breed together I have no control over that. Just my Opinion. I have never put a pic on of a bird from another breeder that I felt was inferior. I have got Orps from other breeders of English and if they didnt suit what I wanted which was most of them except one or two I sold them off to a auction.

I dont know what else to say
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But... Thank You!
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I appreciate the 411.

It is really dishonest of people to sell birds under false pretenses. I love orpingtons. Point Blank... I would never myself or knowingly allow someone to discrace this breed and then sell birds that are not what they say they are.
It is agreeable anyone can aquire stock, then breed them. Then its considered their line, and should be sold accordingly if they are any certain or specific "Line" of breed.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Orpington_chicken_2.jpg

NO THIS IS NOT MY BIRD. This is a pic of the goal(type) Im working towards with all my Orp colors and I know this wont be easy and will prob take years of work but this is what I like and if its incorrect that's fine too as again I don't plan to show but a yard full of these would b gorgeous and I would b very happy with my birds.

Great Minds!!!

I JUST saved this a few hours ago to be my reference guide. Shes a bute!!


Well scence we are getting into all this, I just want everyone to know I know where my birds came from, Direct from Joy !!!!!
I have not bread anything else into them at all & still producing what I think are SQ. birds, Last year I brought home reserve class champ. with JR. a blue rooster I bread myself out of my birds that came direct to me from Joy & they are getting better & better every year, Yes I have a different line of birds but haven't got a chance to see how they will come around yet as they are only about 3-4 weeks old, still a long time off, for those of you that have bought eggs from me these are not crossed with anything & I only breed my best to my best, I have 7 hens & 2 roosters & would not sale anything I would not keep for myself, I still think Julie & Joy have done a great job getting these birds in here & sharing them as they have, Thanks gals !!!! Oh & one more thing, I will not be selling any more eggs after this year from my small flock, It is to hard to please folks when I cant control how & when a bird lays, there is no way every bird is SQ. that hatches, I have raised several out of my flock & have produced a few that are of that caliber, so cull hard !!!

You are a very fortunate guy!!

See... If you can do it, I know its attainable!
Im dedicated to this breed. And its very frustrating to get your hands on the proper building blocks needed to have a good start. Im not looking to win Champ in any shows. At least no time soon. Maybe when the kids get older.... But its more out of OCD to be able to improve something that you love and have trained your senses to see the best and the worst.

Its like being a carpenter and only being able to find particle board when you want Teak wood!
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Hopefully, Throughout my years I can produce some Champion award winning Cocks like yours who won the reserve champ! For now, Im at the beginning. with enough determination and ability to go around the room!!!

I would absolutely love to have some of your stock for safe keeping.... If im gonna breed those Champs, Gonna need the best!!

Hey Roger, I see you're online. Check out this egg collected from one of my Gold Laced hens today. It just rained and this was waiting on the ground for me. So, yes it is dirty. It has to be a double yolk at least.



Check this out....

One of my blue hens laid a Goose egg today too

sundays egg 55g




Todays egg 78g



Here's a pic of my first Red Orp chick and he (obviously a roo) at 5 weeks old.



Bachelor
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awww <wipes tears> Ya'll made me cry. We are suppose to help one another. I just treat people like I want to be treated. :)

Thank you all <Hugs>
i know thats how you look at it but it is still a great leason for her to learn.she has had some dealings with real jerks that can sour her to breeding hatching an showing but when she gets to spend time with people like you make us relize there are more good people then bad out there.oh an just to put a cherry on top we got an email today that her little buck she reserved was born late sunday night.she has scooby in qurtine right now but said he was said so she brought in a young black pullet that is just part of her laying flock not breeding stock for him to hang with for a few weeks.boy was he happy def likes to breed lol.thanks again an her first show will be ct april 21st will keep u updated on how she does will probally just be showing roos the poor hens will be getting a little tore up in the breeding pens by then.but she is super excited to hatch some of your chicks to work on her line.she loves your birds big an friendly an just look perfect.
 
Hey Roger, I see you're online. Check out this egg collected from one of my Gold Laced hens today. It just rained and this was waiting on the ground for me. So, yes it is dirty. It has to be a double yolk at least.

Its an ostrich LOL!!

Last year Roger sent me some eggs..I couldnt beleive when I opened that box..there were softballs in that box..I thought how are those going to fit in the egg turner!! we got it done thou..and out of 8 eggs 5 hatched..2 wernt fertile , it was very early in the year , and 1 quit..All I couldnt think was...something from jurassic park is going to hatch out of these. .
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I am very new at this and am trying to read/learn as much as I can about my 5 new babies. (2 Buff Orp's, 2 Rh.I.Reds, 1 NJGiant) I read all your comments (especially love the photo's) and I'm happy to see I'm not the only one who has totally fallen in love with these creatures. One thing I learned last night after reading info on this site was how to tell a Roo from a hen RIR. I have 1 of each. Now to wait and see what my Orp's are. I know the NJG is a hen, she's my 'little' Black Pearl. Really just wanted to say Thank You for sharing.
 

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