The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[TheNuttyChick]

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I do not usually post anything on BYC but I thought I would share with everyone what is occurring within my flock. [SIZE=16pt]I purchased my flock from a breeder in May 2012 and they were sold as 100% Pure Black English Orpingtons. I have now started hatching from this flock and I have hatched several Mottled/Spangled chicks. [/SIZE] [SIZE=16pt]Due to this it started me on a journey to investigate the background of my flock. That investigation determined the following:[/SIZE] [SIZE=16pt]· In approximately 2008-2009 the breeder that imported this line out crossed the American Mottled/Spangled Orpington into this line to create the Mottled/Spangle Orpington.[/SIZE] [SIZE=16pt]· The Pure English Mottled/Spangled Orpington was not imported into the United States until 2011.[/SIZE] [SIZE=16pt]Since I have proof that my line is not 100% Pure Black English Orpingtons (see picture of mottled chick) I am wondering about the background of the Black/Blue/Splash Pure English Orpingtons being advertised and sold at auction. I have also included pictures of the [/SIZE]parent stock. [/quote Hi everyone! I don't post much here as I just lurk and admire all your beautiful pictures. I have managed to acquire a few birds and eggs from some of you and hope to have a nice mix to work with. I do find this very interesting, could this be a possibility? I really do love all the information I have found here!

 

[Debbie Hooks]

He is not Pure English....but I purchased him as Pure....I was new to chickens when I bought them...He is just now a year old.

 

[thedragonlady]

He is not Pure English....but I purchased him as Pure....I was new to chickens when I bought them...He is just now a year old.

How do you know he is not pure English ? There are a lot of splits out there. He may not be pure BLACK breeding , but pure English. The colors are getting stirred a lot now.Lots of the pure English birds do NOT carry the very heavy, drippy feathering that is currently winning in England, and they fit the English standard better than the birds currently winning. This looks to be a very nice bird to use over here, if you want to show.

 

[TheNuttyChick]

But now what would you call that if it does pop up in a flock? I'm more curious about the color, it almost looks like my Mottled Java. I don't think the rooster is too bad, but I'm still learning, would he fall in with the American standard then?

 

[aveca]

That's a good looking rooster but he just don't have the 100 % look to me, He is nice & wide looking but the back is a little bit on the long side & not near the fluff in the rear,
Now this is just my opinion & not facts please don't get me wrong because everybody don't breed for the same look maybe its just the way he is holding his tail that gives him the longer back look. The feathering is not as heavy as I am used to seeing, How old is he ? 
Rebel

i kind of agree..he looks a lot like my standard black..but then im no expert..he has the look of the sop birds..they probably have english in them..

 

[aveca]

I am in the UK so not imported Here are my three hatched one per day over the Easter weekend. We don't know if they are Hens or Roos but it shouldn't be too long before we can tell. They have some leg rings now to aid identification. Boris is Red, Godzilla is Green and Legless is Blue. Boris was the first to hatch followed by Godzilla and finally Legless. Legless is the one with the stubby tail as well.

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well nice to see you join us on imported thread..looks like quite a few little girls..look forward to seeing your birds.

 

[Hemlock Hill]

How do you know he is not pure English ? There are a lot of splits out there. He may not be pure BLACK breeding , but pure English. The colors are getting stirred a lot now.Lots of the pure English birds do NOT carry the very heavy, drippy feathering that is currently winning in England, and they fit the English standard better than the birds currently winning. This looks to be a very nice bird to use over here, if you want to show.

Agreed. I do not understand why you would doubt them. Did somebody tell you that? It just looks like you have yet to cull the flock for the type-y ones. Anybody will tell you the odds of getting a SQ bird out of SQ parents are less than 1 in 10.

 

[BamaChicken]

These were the best I had right off. Hopefully will shed some light. Pics 3 and 5 are of the same bird.

All look like pullets except the black one. It may be a pullet. I just cant tell for sure from the photo. I will try and enlarge the pic

 

[rebel yell]

I done something kinda interesting yesterday, I got one of my Orpington bantam pullets that has gone to setting & will not have it any other way her eggs are not fertile so I slipped 4 of my LF eggs under her & that is about all she can cover of them, It will be funny watching her running around raising these chicks cause in about 6 weeks they will be as big as she is, But she was determined so now she has a job, anybody else tried this with a bantam ?

 

[aveca]

yep..my bantam sebright raised 4 australorp ,she was a ferousious mother too..beat the poo out of our cat and chased him into the woods. no one got near her babies..nothing funnier than seeing half grown birds trying to hide under a bantam.