The Odyssey/Eros flock

[TwoCrows]

He definitely taught me a lesson. But it's something I'll have to keep in mind when breeding. I don't want this to get worse, but as it is I can see the benefit. They're a free ranging landrace after all, so I can't have them being complete softies

I personally don't think a roosters aggressive ways toward humans reflects on whether or not he is a good flock leader. So I don't think it's wise to use aggression toward humans as a trait to judge or to pass on to offspring. In the natural world, wild jungle fowl aren't dealing with humans as their care givers, but know instinctively how to keep their flocks alive and well. And because your flock is captive, you don't need to deal with aggressive boys. Gentle with human roosters can still be quite capable of protecting their flocks and raise a fine breed with all their natural instincts still in tact. Just my humble opinion.

 

[fluffycrow]

I personally don't think a roosters aggressive ways toward humans reflects on whether or not he is a good flock leader. So I don't think it's wise to use aggression toward humans as a trait to judge or to pass on to offspring. In the natural world, wild jungle fowl aren't dealing with humans as their care givers, but know instinctively how to keep their flocks alive and well. And because your flock is captive, you don't need to deal with aggressive boys. Gentle with human roosters can still be quite capable of protecting their flocks and raise a fine breed with all their natural instincts still in tact. Just my humble opinion.

Oh I agree, a human aggressive male can't be a good male for his girls, because he spends too much time fighting with the human. However, I see what Kolovos did as a reminder of personal space. Especially since he was in the coop. A male needs to be able to defend his territory from outside threats (and no, I don't mean predators). If a male is able to keep his territory untouched, then how can he make sure other males don't get into it?

 

[TwoCrows]

Oh I agree, a human aggressive male can't be a good male for his girls, because he spends too much time fighting with the human. However, I see what Kolovos did as a reminder of personal space. Especially since he was in the coop. A male needs to be able to defend his territory from outside threats (and no, I don't mean predators). If a male is able to keep his territory untouched, then how can he make sure other males don't get into it?

They definitely need their personal space, and with some it's hard to know how much that is. It's definitely critical we don't send out the wrong message to our boys with improper body movements. As for other males, all my boys were raised together so the squabbling never turned bloody. I'm sure if a strange new rooster came waltzing into the coop, somebody is going to get gravely injured. A lady friend of mine is constantly rescuing roosters, she brings them home and it's a constant battle with keeping them separated. They've nearly fought to death, wounds so bad I could hardly look at them. I applaud her compassion but it's stressful on all involved.

 

[fluffycrow]

Oh that's a lot for a person to go through constantly. She's doing a lot of good for the community, but it's very emotionally draining

 

[TwoCrows]

Oh that's a lot for a person to go through constantly. She's doing a lot of good for the community, but it's very emotionally draining

It is. She loves roosters and has so much empathy for the unwanted boys. But it's difficult on her for sure.

 

[fluffycrow]

That's so sweet. I wish her the best

 

[fluffycrow]

Well, some rather unfortunate news. Seems like the only boy Tsouloufati is developing a floppy comb. There are two things I'll never breed for. Extreme aggression, and floppy combs on the males. Not going to do it. So unfortunately that means he'll probably have to go

 

[TwoCrows]

Well, some rather unfortunate news. Seems like the only boy Tsouloufati is developing a floppy comb. There are two things I'll never breed for. Extreme aggression, and floppy combs on the males. Not going to do it. So unfortunately that means he'll probably have to go

Oh no! An adult, youngster or chick? Combs can flop if they are sick too, can you get a photo of the comb in the morning?

 

[fluffycrow]

Youngster. One of Cruella's adoptive babies actually. I really doubt it could be illness, since end expect some discolouration to come with that, and at least one other symptom. He's perfectly healthy, at least it seems so. Here is a photo I had taken about a week ago. Don't bring my phone down to the coop too often anymore. This camera is very hit or miss, so this picture is pretty crappy. You can see the point where the comb flops, though. Basically how it started out in Ursula as well. There might be a very slight chance it straightens back out again, but we will see. I am not in a rush to get him off the property, he is going to be sticking around for quite some time

 

[TwoCrows]

Youngster. One of Cruella's adoptive babies actually. I really doubt it could be illness, since end expect some discolouration to come with that, and at least one other symptom. He's perfectly healthy, at least it seems so. Here is a photo I had taken about a week ago. Don't bring my phone down to the coop too often anymore. This camera is very hit or miss, so this picture is pretty crappy. You can see the point where the comb flops, though. Basically how it started out in Ursula as well. There might be a very slight chance it straightens back out again, but we will see. I am not in a rush to get him off the property, he is going to be sticking around for quite some timeView attachment 3689520

Thanks for the photo! I've had youngsters develop floppy combs like this and I've never seen them straighten out, if anything, they get worse. Pretty bird though, love the colors! ❤ This said, I don't care for curly floppy combs either, so I don't blame you for not wanting to continue this characteristic.