Universal Health Care Passes House

[hen-thusiast]

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Where on earth did you find that?

 

[debilorrah]

I still haven't been able to figure out why Americans couldn't VOTE on it.

 

[Opa]

If it's such a great thing then why won't congress be using it?

 

[Boyd]

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because they make enough money to self insure

 

[Toast n Jelly]

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We have a triage system here in Canada. The more serious the issue, the faster you get seen, treated, operated on, etc.

It works that way from the emergency room on up the line.

If you walk into an ER with a sprained ankle, you are going to wait a lot longer to be seen than the guy who came in after you who was hit by a car.

The same goes for treatment and surgery.

If you need a knee replacement, you are going to go behind the person who has breast cancer and needs a mastectomy. Yes, needing a new knee has a big effect on quality of life, but nobody dies from not getting a knee replacement fast enough. Who here would really be okay with having their knee replaced ahead of someone needing cancer surgery?

I have a friend who had skin cancer. She was in to see the specialist the same day our GP saw the cancer on her leg. She had it removed within a week.

I went into the hospital at 11pm one night with severe abdominal pain. I was in surgery by 7pm the next day. I had massive infection and had my appendix removed.

It really bothers me when Canadians bash our system. No, it isn't perfect, but it is not terrible either. Never once since our universal healthcare system was put in place, has a Canadian gone bankrupt courtesy of medical bills. Not once has a Canadian been denied care due to a pre-existing condition.

Well said

I can remember before we had medicare and I so would not want to go there!
So many people could not afford insurance or medical aid. What a nightmare.
I read somewhere that our system was based on the American plan that was rejected originaly by Americans but Canada took it up...? I personally love it and for those that can afford it we still have private options.

 

[bargain]

Debi for president......

Please no bashing here please no bashing. I would agree that the current system needs extreme overhaul for medicaid and medicare reimbursement and fraud and abuse and other medical issues.. How is it that doctors are allowed perks from drug representatives/companies based upon the number of prescriptions......sounds like kick back to me......

While I was having a full blown attack and in emergency room which led to appendectomy this spring....I listened to a doctor washing a skinned knee, take care of a lady with a sore throat and no fever, a person with a 2 hour headache...I'm guessing paid for my medicaid or hill burton.....Why not have a public clinic available, which happily is something that's now proposed for the county for the coming year.....It will require low copays but I hope it does happen and free up er for true er costs.

When a relative of mine waited for over 3 months for life saving cancer treatment because it was unusual treatment it needed Medicad approval......That's a bureaucratic mess that could cost her young life...

I think that our litigious society has brought on many problems....Many competent physicians will no longer deliver babies because they cannot afford the malpratice insurance.....

Well, Boyd you really bumped the bee hives on this one.....

 

[Opa]

 

[acdoc]

I wonder why the hospital and doctors office charge so much anyways. Mabye they should do something about the prices we are being charged per visit. I doubt they wanna do that though because they wont be getting as much tax money back in their pockets. WHAT A JOKE .. does anyone know what year health insurance began

 

[AnnesChicks]

I applaud you for taking the time to educate yourself. This is to complex an issue, there is no easy right or wrong in this discussion.

I believe health reform is way overdue. I do believe that a well designed public health care system can and will cost far less then the current poorly managed and obsolete patchwork of programs - both public and private that combined leave far too many of our fellow Americans without coverage.

I have worked with families for over 20 years and see firsthand on a daily basis how having or not having access to healthcare impacts our families. While thankfully access to health coverage for children through government programs has increased dramatically in the past decade, but not coverage for working adults......the majority of Americans without coverage are working folks.

If you are poor, under the age of 18, have a disability or are a senior you most likely have medical coverage provided through some type of government program. Look around, talk to your family members, your co-workers, your neighbors. Fewer jobs offer insurance and for many families the cost of those policies is out of reach. And if you are fortunate enough to have a job that provides affordable coverage, with the current national jobless rates at 10%+ you too are only a lay off away from become an ugly statistic.

Some relatives of ours recently had to file for bankrupcty after multiple medical issues left them with an enormous amount of medical debt that they could never hope to pay for. They are both adults, who have always worked, who were never on the
system" and in their 50's their luck and their health ran out.

Ask yourself, who is spending vast amounts to defeat this proposal - what do they have to gain by retaining the current system? Who is paying for the fear mongering ads?

 

[babylady4]

Elimination of the insurance companies would get my vote; a single payer system where nobody is denied and people who need essential services now; and a system where wealth and social status have no bearing on treatment received.... and applies to EVERY CITIZEN (elected or not).

Allowing the healing of the whole body; evaluate the entire being both mental and physical at each visit. Embracing both Eastern and Western medical philosophies, and non-standard methodology's of healing individuals. THAT would be my health care.