What is this under my chicken's tongue?

[sourland]

I panicked ordered the powder last night. I'm sobbing I can't cull her I'm trying to contact vets hours away and no answer because its the holidays.

No need to cull her. Canker organism is pretty much ubiquitous and expresses itself during times of stress. Being at the bottom of the pecking order is likely the stressor that caused her outbreak. I would treat the entire flock.

 

[ebisu]

Will ACV help her as I wait for the powder Metronidazole and
Acidified Copper Sulfate? If yes, what's the recommended dose? Both sites' contact that I'm ordering from are unavailable due to the holiday.

 

[ebisu]

The only vet that may be able to help me said they are unable to as they also said the treatment is extremely complicated and the Metronidazole medication that they'd have to order to treat is illegal. I asked if there were other options and they said no. They offered euthanasia.

 

[HorseGirlAbby]

I panicked ordered the powder last night. I'm sobbing I can't cull her I'm trying to contact vets hours away and no answer because its the holidays.

The powder will work as well, you’ll just have to weigh it out. I feel you, I couldn’t bear to cull mine either.

Will ACV help her as I wait for the powder Metronidazole and
Acidified Copper Sulfate? If yes, what's the recommended dose? Both sites' contact that I'm ordering from are unavailable due to the holiday.

ACV won’t hurt her, but I don’t know that it will help much either. As a general rule, the dosage is 1T per gallon of water, but it doesn’t have to be exact. Is she still drinking?

 

[ebisu]

The powder will work as well, you’ll just have to weigh it out. I feel you, I couldn’t bear to cull mine either.

ACV won’t hurt her, but I don’t know that it will help much either. As a general rule, the dosage is 1T per gallon of water, but it doesn’t have to be exact. Is she still drinking?

I thought I saw her pecking at a from a nipple yesterday but I'm not sure if she actually got anything down. She was still drooling when trying to eat before I left to work today. I have family at home but as always, they are not willing to help when I ask for it or empathize with me.

 

[HorseGirlAbby]

I thought I saw her pecking at a from a nipple yesterday but I'm not sure if she actually got anything down. She was still drooling when trying to eat before I left to work today. I have family at home but as always, they are not willing to help when I ask for it or empathize with me.

Could you get her a bowl of water? It might be a little easier for her to drink out of a bowl than a nipple. When you get back home, you could try offering her some moistened food and see if that’s easier for her to eat. If it’s still really difficult, you might have to start tube feeding her.

 

[ebisu]

I put out a bowl of water with a lil bit of ACV in it but it looked like she didn't get much and didn't express interest in it for the next half hour (the sun was setting soon). Idk if it was the ACV that made her disinterested. But she had the same issue with the water where she'd tried to eat and drool would make the food fall back out. She continued to try eating managing to get a few more pieces in.

Other than this, she's still active and interested in food/water albeit the struggle to eat and drink. She paced around and made frustrated and sad noises as she's never been separated from the flock before.

 

[HorseGirlAbby]

I put out a bowl of water with a lil bit of ACV in it but it looked like she didn't get much and didn't express interest in it for the next half hour (the sun was setting soon). Idk if it was the ACV that made her disinterested. But she had the same issue with the water where she'd tried to eat and drool would make the food fall back out. She continued to try eating managing to get a few more pieces in.

Other than this, she's still active and interested in food/water albeit the struggle to eat and drink. She paced around and made frustrated and sad noises as she's never been separated from the flock before.

It sounds like you’re going to have to tube feed her. I don’t have any experience doing this, but I know @casportpony is very knowledgeable about that.

If you look into her beak, can you see any more lesions? I know it won’t be fun, but if you could try to get them out, you might be able to save her. They’re probably almost completely blocking her esophagus

You’ll want to make sure none of your other birds have canker either. It’s got a very distinctive smell, as I’m sure you’ve noticed. To check for it, it’s pretty simple to just go smell everyone’s beak. Of course, it would be more thorough if you looked inside all their beaks, but that can be time consuming and not conclusive as you might not be able to see well enough.

 

[ebisu]

It sounds like you’re going to have to tube feed her. I don’t have any experience doing this, but I know @casportpony is very knowledgeable about that.

If you look into her beak, can you see any more lesions? I know it won’t be fun, but if you could try to get them out, you might be able to save her. They’re probably almost completely blocking her esophagus

You’ll want to make sure none of your other birds have canker either. It’s got a very distinctive smell, as I’m sure you’ve noticed. To check for it, it’s pretty simple to just go smell everyone’s beak. Of course, it would be more thorough if you looked inside all their beaks, but that can be time consuming and not conclusive as you might not be able to see well enough.

This morning I discovered a new lesion in the same spot under her tongue like the first one I pulled out from my first post so I think they're gonna keep coming back. I took out the lesion that I found this morning. The lesions are not solid and come apart. What are the signs that it's blocking her esophagus? I can't find any threads of long-term treatment for canker either the thread went nowhere, the chicken died, or the user saying it worked with no updates after.

I'll check the other girls tomorrow.

 

[HorseGirlAbby]

This morning I discovered a new lesion in the same spot under her tongue like the first one I pulled out from my first post so I think they're gonna keep coming back. I took out the lesion that I found this morning. The lesions are not solid and come apart. What are the signs that it's blocking her esophagus?

Yes, the lesions will keep coming back until you can give her the medicine. The only signs that it’s blocking her esophagus are her drooling and not being able to swallow/eat. So basically what she’s doing now.