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No, a black bird cannot carry the blue gene, Blue birds come from a single Bl dilution on an Black bird, if the bird has two Bl dilutions then it is a splash, so if the bird has the Bl gene then it will be shown through the feathering, unless the bird has another gene covering it up such as the...

Crossing Blue to Lavender isnt bad if you know what your doing.

They kinda look more like splash birds

Hes got a good size body, do you have any pictures of him in the sun? It almost looks like he has leakage in his saddle and hackles

I would recommend that you find some lavender Orpingtons, it would be a long and hard project to start with Ameraucanas.

You will get a whole assortment of messed up colored birds from breeding lav to buff, they will all look black and buff

Quote: If the legs are yellow then it would make sense that the parent stock has willow legs. Neither are allowed to be in orpingtons according to the standard

The olive legs would explain the yellow beak in the chicks.

Quote: Sorry, yes as long as they are of good quality and you do good culling. Ok, so if the blues are already typey then the black would help with the lacing, am I understanding this correctly? This is not the case with me as type does need work but I want to be sure I have this right. Oh I...

Quote: I'll try again. I haven't been clear. I wondered if the above would also apply to blues. Sorry, yes as long as they are of good quality and you do good culling.

Quote: No, the Blue gene expresses differently than Lavender. Black X Blue = 50% Black, 50% Blue Blue X Blue = 50% Blue, 25% Black, 25% Splash Blue X Splash = 50% Blue, 50% Splash Splash X Splash = 100% Splash Black X Splash = 100% Blue Thank you for the quick answer Unfortunately I...

Quote: If you want a lavender colored bird for showing in 4-H, you should try D' Uccle Bantams, or Booted Bantams.

Quote: no you wont have lavender offspring can either breed the black hens back to their father, or you can cross the black offspring together. Also if possible its better to use a lavender rooster over black hens because the offspring tend to get more of their type from their mothers then...

Quote: Just say no, you cant go anywhere showing Lavender Orpingtons in 4-H since there are no accepted standard. Also the majority of them out there arent good

Quote: no you wont have lavender offspring can either breed the black hens back to their father, or you can cross the black offspring together. Also if possible its better to use a lavender rooster over black hens because the offspring tend to get more of their type from their mothers then...

Quote: This is the reason that they use Lavender in other parts of the world, its possible to have a bird that has the self blue phenotype that is genetically Heterozygous blue, which can be seen in British Blue Leghorns, rather then lavender OSUman, care to explain "self blue phenotype" and...

pips&peeps : This is why some of the breed clubs want to label our birds as lavender instead of self blue as it is very confusing to new breeders. Lavender is not blue and the genes do not express the same way a blue does. This is the reason that they use Lavender in other parts of the world...

Quote: You will get all Black offspring but they will be split to Lavender so if bred together you will get %25 lavender offspring, and if bred to lavenders you will get %50 Lavender offspring.

Quote: I did put them with Black English, and a friend of mine in Iowa has all of those from this year. I kept my Lavender girls. They are penned with a Black English rooster now. Hope to have more splits in the spring. I will have to get some updated pictures. Sorry that I got off topic...

Quote: From my understanding, it would be harder to get the birds accepted as Lavender, but not impossible, there should be nothing that will not be accepted to the standard.