attack was the stray rotweiller!

[Christian99]

Look, please don't blame the breed, blame the owner. Please don't shoot it with a real gun either. Use a BB gun or airsoft gun and scare it off. If it is owned, then how would you feel about someone shooting your dog? If it isn't, it is just trying to find food, just like every other dog.

 

[WthrLady]

I'm not blaming the breed.
It is not an approachable dog. It is a repeat offender.
Collar no tag. Open country.

 

[speckledhen]

Look, please don't blame the breed, blame the owner. Please don't shoot it with a real gun either. Use a BB gun or airsoft gun and scare it off. If it is owned, then how would you feel about someone shooting your dog? If it isn't, it is just trying to find food, just like every other dog.

Shooting a dog with a BB gun is considered animal cruelty in most areas and illegal. If it is owned, then someone (the dog owner) should act like they own it and keep it at home, period. If just a stray and starving, shooting the dog might be doing it a favor.

If I was a neglectful owner, I'd be angry if someone shot my dog due to my own irresponsibility, but I should be angry only at myself, not the person who was defending their livestock and property. That dog did some damage that will have to be repaired.

My statement will always stand--a dog on its owner's property is a pet; a dog on someone else's property is a predator.

May want to review the stickied thread at the top that are special rules of this section. There will always be folks who think dogs get a free pass just because they are dogs. Those people probably shouldn't read in the Predators & Pests section to keep their own blood pressure down.

 

[Christian99]

Do what you want, just please don't put your vain in the breed, instead, put it in whoever used to own the dog. Like I said, it is trying to survive.

 

[WthrLady]

And like i said I never blamed the breed.

 

[speckledhen]

Do what you want, just please don't put your vain in the breed, instead, put it in whoever used to own the dog. Like I said, it is trying to survive.

Most dogs are not just "trying to survive" when they kill chickens. They kill and leave the dead chicken/rabbit/whatever on the ground, indiscriminate slaughter. A truely starving stray may eat a chicken, but most roaming dogs are dogs allowed to roam by the owners and they just kill for killing's sake. In that case, whether it's the breed or sorry training from a bad owner, doesn't matter. The dog is killing livestock that needs protection from it.

It's common in the country for folks to think that's what you do in the country, let your dog go wherever it wants and hope it comes home at night. What they don't realize is that almost every state or locale has a law that says dogs off the owner's property must be under the control of the owner at all times and most places do allow the owner of harassed or slaughtered livestock to shoot the dog doing the killing/harassing. Our state gives me that right and the dog does not have to even kill a bird for me to do so. I love dogs, but I love my chickens more than someone else's dog and will protect them, with the blessing of my state and local ordinances.

I just read on FB from Murphy, NC that some guy was furious that someone shot his dad's roaming husky. Well, sorry. Dog was admittedly regularly allowed to roam around a certain lake area and if he got into some trouble, maybe grabbed a chicken or someone's rabbit or even got into someone's garbage, the owner may have been at fault, but the dog is the one at the scene that had to be stopped. Just because it's someone's pet doesn't give it a free pass.

 

[gawildlife]

X2, on not shooting a dog with a BB gun. It's the exact same legal principle as the use of deadly force in defense of self.

If the conditions exist that a reasonable person would deem it appropriate to use force then you shoot to stop. In other words take the shot that will most expeditiously stop the threat, and keep shooting until the threat is stopped but no more. This is usually the shot that does as much incapacitating damage as physically possible. To do otherwise is implicitly stating the threat level does meet the level that justifies use of force. In other words you may use deadly force to save life you may not use torture or abuse.

 

[WthrLady]

I don't plan on using a bb gun.

 

[speckledhen]

I don't plan on using a bb gun.

I figured you didn't. Best of luck with this problem. And be careful if you encounter that dog-I wouldn't take any chances on being bitten.

 

[Christian99]

Most dogs are not just "trying to survive" when they kill chickens. They kill and leave the dead chicken/rabbit/whatever on the ground, indiscriminate slaughter. A truely starving stray may eat a chicken, but most roaming dogs are dogs allowed to roam by the owners and they just kill for killing's sake. In that case, whether it's the breed or sorry training from a bad owner, doesn't matter. The dog is killing livestock that needs protection from it.

It's common in the country for folks to think that's what you do in the country, let your dog go wherever it wants and hope it comes home at night. What they don't realize is that almost every state or locale has a law that says dogs off the owner's property must be under the control of the owner at all times and most places do allow the owner of harassed or slaughtered livestock to shoot the dog doing the killing/harassing. Our state gives me that right and the dog does not have to even kill a bird for me to do so. I love dogs, but I love my chickens more than someone else's dog and will protect them, with the blessing of my state and local ordinances.

I just read on FB from Murphy, NC that some guy was furious that someone shot his dad's roaming husky. Well, sorry. Dog was admittedly regularly allowed to roam around a certain lake area and if he got into some trouble, maybe grabbed a chicken or someone's rabbit or even got into someone's garbage, the owner may have been at fault, but the dog is the one at the scene that had to be stopped. Just because it's someone's pet doesn't give it a free pass.

Sorry to prove you wrong, but my I feed my dog averagely. When I take it out in the woods, sometimes it kills an animal and ALWAYS wants to eat it. From, snake, to opossum, raccoon, armadillo, rabbit, mice, everything!