Beefing up a scrawny collie

[Tracydr]

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My vet comments on how great my dogs look since being fed raw. The Internal Medicine Specialist is the one who recommended it for my chihuahua. The cardioloogist who screens my Doberman each year completely agrees that it's a healthy diet at that my dogs are healthy. In fact, my Doberman check's out with a healthier than average heart for her age, despite being genetically positive for cardiomyopathy.

 

[Tracydr]

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Most vets have little to no nutrition training in school. The little training they have is sponsored by Hills, Purina and Eukanuba.
Threads like these make me wonder if BYC is sponsored or spammed by big-ag as well. It amazes me how often GMO feeds, non-organic farming and big-ag are defended in feeding and the meat bird forums.
I'm a Medical Professional myself and almost went to vet school. Changed my mind and went to med school but had all the animal science undergrad. I know a lot of vets and know a lot about their programs/training. More than most non-vets do.

 

[Jamie_Dog_Trainer]

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Most vets have little to no nutrition training in school. The little training they have is sponsored by Hills, Purina and Eukanuba.
Threads like these make me wonder if BYC is sponsored or spammed by big-ag as well. It amazes me how often GMO feeds, non-organic farming and big-ag are defended in feeding and the meat bird forums.
I'm a Medical Professional myself and almost went to vet school. Changed my mind and went to med school but had all the animal science undergrad. I know a lot of vets and know a lot about their programs/training. More than most non-vets do.

I'm not clear why you quoted what I was saying. I can't figure out if you agree or disagree with me LOL

but in any event I do agree that Vets don't have a lot of nutritional schooling. I have worked for several Vets, they never seemed to know much about the foods and allergies caused by them. Took a lot for them to admit an animal and a food allergy or sensitivity (or at least one that couldn't be cured with their Rx Science Diet).

As for Vets not knowing about training and animal behavior..ugh its terrible the things Vets will tell people to do. Most of the time the information is so off base it makes me cringe.

 

[conny63malies]

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My cat wouldnt eat Blue Buffalo either, he rather eats cheap 2$ food. But anyways, back to the question. My wienerdog is thin too. I add a dab of bacon grease or leftover gravy to her dry food and let it sit for a few minutes. Makes the food taste better.

 

[Eyeheartquail]

Sylverfly-

I apologize for coming across the way I did. It is very easy to construe information on these boards. I was under the impression that you had access to information that I had not seen or in all honesty fabricated it based on your own opinion. Throw me a bone here, I don't know you from anyone else on this forum and so I have every right to question your creditability. I agree to disagree. I feel that the information you have posted is extremely outdated and false. My friend has a web page that explains our views on raw and goes into much more detail than I am willing to go into on here. http://www.thewholedog.org/artcarnivores.html It even goes over some of the information that you are claiming and why I find it false. I know that raw isn't for everyone. I am sorry for upsetting you and really do think you have a beautiful dog.

 

[dainerra]

There is a reason that dogs and cats will pick cheap foods over more expensive healthier alternatives. Purina and other companies add chemical scents and artifical flavors to attract the dogs attention. The food itself is largely corn, which would have little attraction. The little meat that IS. In the food is chemically preserved and is from unknown sources. 3D (dead, dying, diseased) animals are the most common source. I used to get my raw food from a butcher that sold his scraps to a rendering plant for pet food. All the meat, guts, bones were dumped in metal drums and stoed outside in a shed where they waited for pickup every 2 weeks. The smell was horrendous. Sometimes a barrel would leak and rotting liquid would be running out from under the door.

THAT is the kind of stuff that is in your cheap dog food, with a million chemicals mixed in to mask the odor.

An equivilant would be letting your kid live on Twinkies and gummy bears. After all, they like the taste and you can just give them vitamins to make up for everything they are lacking.

Prey model raw includes the WHOLE animal, stomach and intestines as well. Wild carnivores start their meal with the stomach and contents. My dogs will go outside and eat apples and pears from the tree. That doesn't mean that corn should be the main staple of their diet.

 

[ZoeZoo]

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Aww! Cutie dog

I just everyone might be interested that dogs choose their food mainly by smell. That's partly why dogs always pick the icky stinky things out of garbage cans first! The big brands (like Purina, Iams, etc) of dog food know this and coat their kibble in "gravy" or something similar so that dogs will often pick their kibble over fancy-grainfree-holistic-organic-healthy brands that are probably better in quality ..and better for your dogs.. than theirs. Some people compare this to letting a little kid choose McDonalds over their broccoli etc.
just puttin' that out there. thought it might be helpful

Hope it doesn't come across as contradicting or rude!!

I hope you find the right food for your collie! He's a beaut

 

[Feral tabby]

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SOOOO true! I just hate those Beneful ads and got my folks to switch foods after making them read the label.

It would probably also be helpful to neuter your dog...that will probably assist with his weight!