BYC Genetic/Breed Calculator Huge Task Ahead!

[LilJoe]

How do you guys understand Kippenjungle?!

 

[Amer]

There are indeed people who can do this.. but I hope everyone understands how difficult this actually is to pull off. The illustrating is the easy part, though that’s still tedious by itself, and the genetic side of things does take experts. But I’ve coded some stuff (an excel self-sorting program for a business’s warehouse) and it SUCKS. I once spent an entire work day learning how to do the most seemingly simple sorting task across multiple spreadsheets that I thought would take 30 minutes. Just in case anyone is disillusioned.. one chicken breed would need several if,then lines and it’s confusing and all around not super fun (can you tell I don’t like coding).

I honestly think, unless you luck out and there’s a programming genius here on BYC who knows the jargon, that you would have to pay for this to be done properly to get anything worth the effort. Or you would have to take classes and invest hella time self-teaching and sorting through trial and error and wanting to smash your pc’s screen in. Sorry if that puts a damper on it, it’s just not a job for an amateur..

Yup. Exactly. The one thing that might be easy enough to code would be putting two breeds with they're colors together and see what results members got out of this cross. If we don't have any, we just won't have any. Of course this won't always work with white birds, because they can cover anything.

 

[Amer]

How do you guys understand Kippenjungle?!

Lots of experimenting. I use the examples of colors until I figure out the basis genes of a pattern. I also know what dominate, recessive, partially dominate, and multiple alleles are. And sex-linkage. On the plus, they have English and Dutch, so I learned a bit of Dutch if I do say so myself.

 

[BlackHackle]

The programming could be done in any program. Qt would be the best in my opinion as it is entirely manual. I just don't know how to do the genetic mathematics. Like do silver duckwing patterns over shoot columbian? No clue...

 

[BlackHackle]

I know a poultry gene veteran how lives in my area who has broken KippenJungle down into its elements. He can tell you all the genes and how they effect each other. He has experimented with poultry genes for over 40 years now

 

[Amer]

The programming could be done in any program. Qt would be the best in my opinion as it is entirely manual. I just don't know how to do the genetic mathematics. Like do silver duckwing patterns over shoot columbian? No clue...

I used kip for this, sorry I know I cheated, I dunno what "shoot columbian" means, but you get incomplete silver columbian females and golden columbian male chicks. Sex links. I knew the sexlinkage, just had to check the patterning.

 

[LilJoe]

http://kippenjungle.nl/breeds/crossbreeds.html
the top of this where it tells you to choose breeds does nothing...what's its purpose?

 

[BlackHackle]

LOL. Also, I think KippenJungle has an editable calculator template on their site as well that you can build off of.

 

[Amer]

I know a poultry gene veteran how lives in my area who has broken KippenJungle down into its elements. He can tell you all the genes and how they effect each other. He has experimented with poultry genes for over 40 years now

I kinda figured out whether they are dd, dr, rd, rr, but sometimes I need to look back to remember and I need to experiment to figure them out.

 

[Tesumph]

The programming could be done in any program. Qt would be the best in my opinion as it is entirely manual. I just don't know how to do the genetic mathematics. Like do silver duckwing patterns over shoot columbian? No clue...

What do you mean by “entirely manual”...?