CRELE x BARRED Cross Mating = ??

[OhZark Biddies]

This is the version of the calculator I use:
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

 

[The Moonshiner]

I try to keep it simple. Using all the technical terms and being all scientific bores me and I think overcomplicates things for new to genetics people.
I wasn't sure how much of a grasp you had on genetics but yes others can always find this thread later and maybe it would answer some of their questions.
I've done quite a few of these crossings. My blacks and barred (cuckoo) are silver and I was crossing them with silver duckwing and gold duckwing. Working on making a crele and silver crele among other things.

 

[ChickenLeg]

I try to keep it simple. Using all the technical terms and being all scientific bores me and I think overcomplicates things for new to genetics people.
I wasn't sure how much of a grasp you had on genetics but yes others can always find this thread later and maybe it would answer some of their questions.
I've done quite a few of these crossings. My blacks and barred (cuckoo) are silver and I was crossing them with silver duckwing and gold duckwing. Working on making a crele and silver crele among other things.

I like a little of both layman terms and more detailed responses to help expand my knowledge base, I appreciate everyones responses on this thread.

I'm curious what your outlook is (pros/cons) if the following is all I had to work with, which method is faster/which one is less messy (gene wise)?

Crossing (gold based) Black with (silver based) Barreds to eventually create a Barred Male (gold based) over Silver Duckwing females to create Crele?

Or if I only had the following:

Using Brown Reds or Wheatens to cross the gold gene into my silver duckwing line to create a BBR line. Then crossing this line with a (silver based) barred to create creles?

 

[ChickenLeg]

Anybody have any info on creating red barred such as in the photo I attached (not my bird). It almost looks like it has a buff columbian pattern with barring.

 

[Amer]

Barring is made crisper and more visible by using a fast-feathering bird. It is for this reason that barred rock and cuckoo marans have different plumage pattens; the former is fast feathering, the latter slow. @The Moonshiner, I believe I have read about sex-linkage regarding feathering rates; perhaps you know the ins and outs?

A black bird would just mix up the e-series as well as produce male offspring impure for barring. It would be more effort than its worth, imo.

You have it wrong. Other way around.
BRs are slow, Marans are fast