Dog / Human Conflict

[centrarchid]

NICE!
Where's the pond?

I have to renew Micrsoft office first. Expired at midnight. LOL

Edit: I can actually dump image directly into post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pond is directly south of barn in image below. Dogs spend a lot of time between pond and southwest corner of barnyard perimeter barking at sheep and goat. That is probably so my dogs can't cut them off when they go sprinting out to confront them.

 

[centrarchid]

My entire property is the roughly boot shaped rectangle in center of image defined on bottom and southeast corner by woodlot. This image should make clear why fencing to exclude dogs is not going to be practical.

 

[centrarchid]

it is only cruel if you don't know what your doing. US Fish and Wildlife Services uses foot-hold traps all the time to catch coyotes, bob cats, wolves, and other animals.

anywayyyyy
you can also make a dog catch pole using PVC pipe and cable.

As the OP, I would not know what I am doing trying to trap dogs in that manner. Having working dogs of my own would complicate matters further.

 

[McChooky]

As the OP, I would not know what I am doing trying to trap dogs in that manner. Having working dogs of my own would complicate matters further.

I have used catch poles not traps to remove possums and coons but mostly stray dogs.

 

[aart]

OK didn't know that... just putting ideas out there... it's better to be trapped than shot...

Best to read the whole thread then try to stay within context.
Sometime it's better to just observe

 

[Sono]

Depending on states... some have leash laws and are to be restrained at all times ( kept on your own property, tied or penned. If they run free its the owners responsibility to keep them on their property!!!! Hopefully you have made complaints to neighbors and law enforcement in the past so there is a record of ongoing harassment and trespass well as damages/loss to your flock. As far as a civil suit, you are well into your rights to protect your property and livestock.
When I bought my house/land and was out working on it getting ready to move in, a neighbors dog actually wondered into the house from the opened garage and started growling/barking and me and the carpet installers... I am a ccw holder and throught I was going to have to defend everyone as I didnt know whose dog it was or its nature. It finally left.... but if it came down the wire, gotta do what you gotta do. Met the neighbors months later and found out it was their dog, we talked about the incident and all , it still comes around but it Hasnt bothered anyone or raised an alarm since, Guess I was just a strange new guy at the time. Hopefully your neighbors are understanding and will also take charge of their dogs as a responsible owner should.

 

[centrarchid]

I did read the whole thread. I said the traps idea because OP was talking about trapping and said he didn't have a big enough live trap!!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/dog-human-conflict.1502113/post-25325327

I will buy a large enough live trap. The foot hold traps will cause a lot of discomfort. Even the live trap will be less than fun for the trapped animal.

 

[centrarchid]

Depending on states... some have leash laws and are to be restrained at all times ( kept on your own property, tied or penned. If they run free its the owners responsibility to keep them on their property!!!! Hopefully you have made complaints to neighbors and law enforcement in the past so there is a record of ongoing harassment and trespass well as damages/loss to your flock. As far as a civil suit, you are well into your rights to protect your property and livestock.
When I bought my house/land and was out working on it getting ready to move in, a neighbors dog actually wondered into the house from the opened garage and started growling/barking and me and the carpet installers... I am a ccw holder and throught I was going to have to defend everyone as I didnt know whose dog it was or its nature. It finally left.... but if it came down the wire, gotta do what you gotta do. Met the neighbors months later and found out it was their dog, we talked about the incident and all , it still comes around but it Hasnt bothered anyone or raised an alarm since, Guess I was just a strange new guy at the time. Hopefully your neighbors are understanding and will also take charge of their dogs as a responsible owner should.

That has all been addressed. I'm in Missouri like you, specifically Callaway County across the river from Jefferson City. Callaway County has lax laws on dogs.

 

[Sono]

You can be charged with cruelty to animals for using fur trapping devises to catch a dog or cat.(In the US)

Not if you set them out for fur trapping and some dog just happens to wonder into them...js

 

[Sono]

Its fairly cheap to get a couple rolls of electric fence cord and run it along the side they enter, get one for a horse, after they hit that once or twice they will stop coming over Im sure.