Egg hatching that still has veins pipped?

[nchls school]

Ah i see maybe these guys just take their sweet time absorbing the rest.

No problem, the chick has a really good feeding response so thats good.

I have used so many different types of formulas, from kaytee, nekton, zupreem, ect. Although for lovebirds i’ve used nutribird a21 as most lovebird breeders seem to use it. Right now I am also using electrolytes to replace the water, and bird probiotics (probizyme) to help out with good bacteria. Oh and I syringe feed, i find spoon feeding more messy and I cant see how much they have eaten.

Fascinating! Agreed about the spoon feeding; just a mess. It has been a long time since the wife and I hand fed hookbills-I miss it. The closest I get these days if to hand feed an occasional dove or two; just not the same.

 

[Diveks]

Fascinating! Agreed about the spoon feeding; just a mess. It has been a long time since the wife and I hand fed hookbills-I miss it. The closest I get these days if to hand feed an occasional dove or two; just not the same.

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Hand feeding from day one is a pain but its worth it when i see them grow up. I find doves beautiful but i’ve never had any experiences with them. would love to get some in the future if I have the time and space.

 

[Diveks]

The chick is doing well unfortunately the second chick is malpositioned badly. Its head is tucked between its legs. I had a hunch because it had pipped somewhere random. well its head decided to wander more and it is now so far from the air cell.

Im scared i might not be able to help this baby but ill try my best. Any tips anyone? I've read up on how to assist but I am not sure where its beak is! i see the eyes and head but its beak is tucked back and is not against the shell.

 

[nchls school]

Hand feeding from day one is a pain but its worth it when i see them grow up. I find doves beautiful but i’ve never had any experiences with them. would love to get some in the future if I have the time and space.

The two doves in the picture were hand fed as squabs. While they are tame, doves do not stay as tame as hookbills; not nearly as friendly and loving.

 

[Diveks]

The two doves in the picture were hand fed as squabs. While they are tame, doves do not stay as tame as hookbills; not nearly as friendly and loving.

Ah i see, i wanted some as aviary birds although i have lovebirds in mine so i might have to make another, maybe some day. I don’t need birds that are too tame but them not scared to come over to me, not freak out, eat near me would be great.

 

[Diveks]

So update on second chick, i found it’s head. It does not seem to be very active though… It seems ready, no blood was drawn when i was making a hole for the head. Now to wait for the chick to jump out on its own…

I candled twice today as i had a feeling. Well one egg drew down and decided to pip in the last 7 hour. This came from the same clutch so im not sure if it will be able to go out unassisted. It pipped 3 different places all a bit under the air cell. Hoping it will find its own way to the air cell…

 

[nchls school]

Ah i see, i wanted some as aviary birds although i have lovebirds in mine so i might have to make another, maybe some day. I don’t need birds that are too tame but them not scared to come over to me, not freak out, eat near me would be great.

You would have to have doves separate from most hookbills; cockatiels are the exception. From my own experience, hookbills, even small ones, will kill doves; female hookbillls especially. Cockatiels and doves can be kept together. Budgies, in particular, will attack and slaughter doves; as will lovebirds.

 

[nchls school]

So update on second chick, i found it’s head. It does not seem to be very active though… It seems ready, no blood was drawn when i was making a hole for the head. Now to wait for the chick to jump out on its own…

I candled twice today as i had a feeling. Well one egg drew down and decided to pip in the last 7 hour. This came from the same clutch so im not sure if it will be able to go out unassisted. It pipped 3 different places all a bit under the air cell.

If there are three external pips that chick is ready to come out and should be an easy assist. Before assisting, please post a picture of the egg showing the three pips.

Hoping it will find its own way to the air cell…

 

[Diveks]

You would have to have doves separate from most hookbills; cockatiels are the exception. From my own experience, hookbills, even small ones, will kill doves; female hookbillls especially. Cockatiels and doves can be kept together. Budgies, in particular, will attack and slaughter doves; as will lovebirds.

Ah i see, yeah especially lovebirds, they are tiny but fiesty birds. I didn’t know budgies were so aggressive though!

If there are three external pips that chick is ready to come out and should be an easy assist. Before assisting, please post a picture of the egg showing the three pips.

It is not that visible on camera but one pip is protruding out pretty far while the other are close by. Im a bit skeptical that its ready though as all these chicks pipped 36-48 hours before they were ready. Im starting to think these shells are very thin. I think they were not given calcium before they went to me. The female laid eggs 2 weeks after arriving here (they were my friend’s)

Heres the pip:

 

[nchls school]

Ah i see, yeah especially lovebirds, they are tiny but fiesty birds. I didn’t know budgies were so aggressive though!

It is not that visible on camera but one pip is protruding out pretty far while the other are close by. Im a bit skeptical that its ready though as all these chicks pipped 36-48 hours before they were ready. Im starting to think these shells are very thin. I think they were not given calcium before they went to me. The female laid eggs 2 weeks after arriving here (they were my friend’s)

Heres the pip:
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Looks to me like it is zipping and ready to hatch. FEMALE budgies can be very aggressive to other budgies and any other bird.

It is unfortunate that people overlook the need for calcium. Thin shells, yes, but also seizures.