GMO dangers and animal miscarriages

[SebrightLuver]

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They have spent a lot and made a lot! Do you really think it is their intention to do so for the good of the world? If they did not stem from such a questionable history anyways, I would be willing to believe their motive was helping the world population. This is not the case, time and time again, they have proven to be a heartless company. Their website is convincing otherwise and so is the fabricated science behind their claims. They said DDT was safe with their studies...turned out bad! They also said agent orange was safe....turned out bad too! Gee, how did that pesky dioxin make it into the batch of agent orange! Whoops, sorry American soldiers, didn't mean to ruin your health! My dad was one of the thousands of vets exposed to that stuff. The company has taken little if any responsibility for what it has done wrong in the past. In fact, they don't even miss a beat....they just keep working on their next bank vault filling venture! Seriously, who in their right mind would trust this corporation? Now we let them "design" or "engineer" our food! Hello....there is a problem with this picture!

Are you a farmer who uses GMO products?

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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They have spent a lot and made a lot! Do you really think it is their intention to do so for the good of the world? If they did not stem from such a questionable history anyways, I would be willing to believe their motive was helping the world population. This is not the case, time and time again, they have proven to be a heartless company. Their website is convincing otherwise and so is the fabricated science behind their claims. They said DDT was safe with their studies...turned out bad! They also said agent orange was safe....turned out bad too! Gee, how did that pesky dioxin make it into the batch of agent orange! Whoops, sorry American soldiers, didn't mean to ruin your health! My dad was one of the thousands of vets exposed to that stuff. The company has taken little if any responsibility for what it has done wrong in the past. In fact, they don't even miss a beat....they just keep working on their next bank vault filling venture! Seriously, who in their right mind would trust this corporation? Now we let them "design" or "engineer" our food! Hello....there is a problem with this picture!

The loss of DDT has resulted in millions of deaths in the Third World because of malaria and other mosquito borne illness.

 

[SebrightLuver]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

Regardless of your personal opinions, the American Farmer is doing more with less.

Jim

And this needs to happen to be able to feed the growing population in the world. Farmers have less land to use then before, and have more people to feed.​

 

[Pony Trotsky]

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This is true enough. The fact is, though, that there's no evidence whatsoever that GMO crops are actually accomplishing this.

The only long-range study ever conducted on this was done by the Union of Concerned Scientists, and was published in a report called Failure to Yield: Evaluating the Performance of Genetically Engineered Crops.

Their findings are pretty compelling:

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More on the UCS can be found here:
http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture/science_and_impacts/science/failure-to-yield.html

 

[brownegger]

Listen, I understand what you guys are saying. You have been sold into believing it is the best way. Correction, it is the best way you guys currently know. I am not an expert on organic farming practices. I do subsistence farming for myself which has allowed me to be less reliant on commercial food resources. I do not use GE crops, nor do I use any chemical pesticides, herbicides, fungicides or the like. Because, I farm on a personal scale, applications of organic equivalent pesticides are easy for me to apply in my spare time without incurring much cost.

I understand that you feel the need to feed the world population is at stake. I feel that there could be better ways to develop strategies to do so. If farmers have less land because people are buying land that would otherwise be farmed. Those people should learn to provide for themselves from the land as much as possible.

Don't consider me a threat to your livelihood or take what I am saying as an attack to what you're doing. I fully believe that most farmers including yourselves are doing the best with what you have available. I appreciate the steps you have taken to reduce erosion and limit nutrient seepage into our water systems. Don't spin me on this. I feel there are things that remain cause for concern though. Allowing a company to monopolize the sovereignty of a farming heritage is foolish. The corporation is using global need and environmental concerns to accomplish a monopoly on agriculture. Monsanto has also purchased the largest company producing fruit and vegetable seed. Why would they do that? There must be other ways and I believe there are other ways to feed the growing world populations. Otherwise, we will poison and sicken ourselves right out of existence eventually.

 

[Medicine Man]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

The loss of DDT has resulted in millions of deaths in the Third World because of malaria and other mosquito borne illness.

Congratulations on making the most absurd statement in the history of the internet.​

 

[SebrightLuver]

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Perhaps there are other ways that haven't been discovered yet, but until we discover those ways we have to work with what we've got. I don't agree with everything Monsanto does, but they are often unfairly accused by people who just read the articles slamming them (there are plenty out there) I'm not saying thats anyone on here, but I've been through this discussion on several forums.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay wrote:
The loss of DDT has resulted in millions of deaths in the Third World because of malaria and other mosquito borne illness.

Medicine Man wrote:
Congratulations on making the most absurd statement in the history of the internet.

What's "absurd" about the truth?

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/content/article.php3?id=68

In Sri Lanka, in 1948, there were 2.8 million malaria cases and 7,300 malaria deaths. With widespread DDT use, malaria cases fell to 17 and no deaths in 1963.

After DDT use was discontinued, Sri Lankan malaria cases rose to 2.5 million in the years 1968 and 1969, and the disease remains a killer in Sri Lanka today. More than 100,000 people died during malaria epidemics in Swaziland and Madagascar in the mid-1980s, following the suspension of DDT house spraying.

After South Africa stopped using DDT in 1996, the number of malaria cases in KwaZulu-Natal province skyrocketed from 8,000 to 42,000. By 2000, there had been an approximate 400 percent increase in malaria deaths. Now that DDT is being used again, the number of deaths from malaria in the region has dropped from 340 in 2000 to none at the last reporting in February 2003.​

 

[Medicine Man]

Sure, by that logic I suppose we can also blame malaria on the fact that we have not dropped nuclear bombs on third world countries.

How about simply supplying a malaria prophylactic? Perhaps a bit more prudent than advocating the use of DDT?

 

[Medicine Man]

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Perhaps there are other ways that haven't been discovered yet, but until we discover those ways we have to work with what we've got. I don't agree with everything Monsanto does, but they are often unfairly accused by people who just read the articles slamming them (there are plenty out there) I'm not saying thats anyone on here, but I've been through this discussion on several forums.

There are other ways...first and foremost would be to simply distribute food. We've never really, truly done that. The issue of famine is one of distribution, not supply.