GMO dangers and animal miscarriages

[sanctus7]

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Medicine Man wrote:
Congratulations on making the most absurd statement in the history of the internet.

What's "absurd" about the truth?

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/content/article.php3?id=68

In Sri Lanka, in 1948, there were 2.8 million malaria cases and 7,300 malaria deaths. With widespread DDT use, malaria cases fell to 17 and no deaths in 1963.

After DDT use was discontinued, Sri Lankan malaria cases rose to 2.5 million in the years 1968 and 1969, and the disease remains a killer in Sri Lanka today. More than 100,000 people died during malaria epidemics in Swaziland and Madagascar in the mid-1980s, following the suspension of DDT house spraying.

After South Africa stopped using DDT in 1996, the number of malaria cases in KwaZulu-Natal province skyrocketed from 8,000 to 42,000. By 2000, there had been an approximate 400 percent increase in malaria deaths. Now that DDT is being used again, the number of deaths from malaria in the region has dropped from 340 in 2000 to none at the last reporting in February 2003.
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Don't forget to add the big problem with bed bugs could be solved if we used DDT again too.​

 

[Pele]

Worried about GMO crops accumulating in animals, then turning around and supporting DDT? Which is 100% proven to accumulate in animals and do harm?

Ah I quit, makes me sad. None of us are scientists, and not one of us are going to change anyone else's mind on this forum, which means this will all escalate into 'neener neener we're better", and get this thread closed.

Just a lot of people online who like to tell other people how thier way of life is superior. Same ol same ol. Decide for yourself, thats the right and privilage of the modern human. If you're wrong, you get to reap your own consequences and not bother anyone else.

So enjoy your theories, just be respectful of the fact that not everyone agrees with you, and no amount of "OMG END OF DAYS!" posting is going to change their minds.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Speak for yourself! I am a scientist with several articles published in Peer Reviewed Journals.

 

[SebrightLuver]

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If we don't destribute it then how does it get from my farm to someones dinner plate across the country?

http://www.wfp.org/hunger/causes
I think this gives you a nice summary of the problems which affect distribution of food resources. The hungry in the US are generally impoverished and unable to afford quality food. In other countries, there is little access to food becuase of regional instability, natural disaters, politics, wars, and the overall poverty and inability of the nation to support the infrastructure needed to provide the distrobution and production of food. GMO's, good or bad can't solve most of this.

But the distribution of food doesn't have anything to do with GMOs... its still food, GMO or not. For the hungry in the US, the food is there, they just can't afford it.

 

[sanctus7]

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I know it sounds messed up, DDT was used crazily "back in the day" and there is talk of bringing it back but controlling it's usage. Bed bugs are a real problem, families that have infestations end up leaving their homes..mitigation is too costly. I guess I would rather see people keep their homes IF a responsible, licensed mitigation expert applied the DDT.
I am open to information but I have seen some awful situations here. What do we do?
Do we throw the baby out with the bath water? I am open to debate on this one.

 

[sanctus7]

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I agree. I have seen people so infested that they must leave their house, mitigation is too costly.
I hear that the plan is to bring it back but control the usage. The only poison that works is DDT...what to do???

 

[darkmatter]

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Don't assume. Many of us here have high technical backgrounds and skills. The only part you have right is that no one can win a debate with an opponent that's not hampered by a knowledge of the facts.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Anyone concerned with "facts" should go back to the OP and focus on THIS fact:

the findings do not specifically pinpoint whether GMOs, their pesticides, or a combination of both is directly responsible for spawning the pathogen

http://www.naturalnews.com/033043_GMOs_crop_failures.html#ixzz1U7ckTX9J​

 

[RHRanch]

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http://www.wfp.org/hunger/causes
I think this gives you a nice summary of the problems which affect distribution of food resources. The hungry in the US are generally impoverished and unable to afford quality food. In other countries, there is little access to food becuase of regional instability, natural disaters, politics, wars, and the overall poverty and inability of the nation to support the infrastructure needed to provide the distrobution and production of food. GMO's, good or bad can't solve most of this.

But the distribution of food doesn't have anything to do with GMOs... its still food, GMO or not. For the hungry in the US, the food is there, they just can't afford it.

Yeah - I think I already said that. The subject was food distrobution, and many on this thread are saying that we need GMOs to feed the world. I was pointing out that it is irrlevant if the food grown is GMO, not GMO - we will not be able to feed the world when the major problem is access - we can't get the food to people, therefore they have no access to food, thats a huge component of why people go hungry.

Note: lack of money is a barrier to access to food. Natural disasters are a barrier to access... Corrupt goverment is a barrier to access...etc.

 

[SebrightLuver]

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But the distribution of food doesn't have anything to do with GMOs... its still food, GMO or not. For the hungry in the US, the food is there, they just can't afford it.

Yeah - I think I already said that. The subject was food distrobution, and many on this thread are saying that we need GMOs to feed the world. I was pointing out that it is irrlevant if the food grown is GMO, not GMO - we will not be able to feed the world when the major problem is access - we can't get the food to people, therefore they have no access to food, thats a huge component of why people go hungry.

Oh yes I agree with you there, but GMOs have the ability to produce more. Of course that doesn't mean anything if you can't get the food to the person though.