GMO dangers and animal miscarriages

[TruGritCkn]

Pesticide is an umbrella term used to describe any product registered by the EPA as required by the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act, otherwise known as FIFRA. Even household bleach that makes a claim to kill germs is considered a pesticide. So are the antibacterial products used in soaps and germicides that are used in hand sanitizers. But we are off the topic here.
Monsanto is a huge chemical company with a huge hold on food resources world wide.

 

[GhostRider65]

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I have to second your post.
I also am not angry at anyone, here there or otherwise, I do not intend to insult anyone, and I'm sorry if my posts come off in that respect, but I have seen aplenty abuse in my 46 years, by Doctors, pharmaceutical companies, government, big AG you name it, if profits are involved you are usually coming out on the short end of the stick. They have taken every good thing done to protect American lives and twisted, tainted, corrupted it into the bottom line, MONEY, and we will all suffer the negative effects of their greed.
I have family who have been treated suffered, and died why would I insult them? The ACS is a good non profit they do try to help people, but they are being led to the same end, by the very same people who say NO illness can be cured by anything but modern, patented medicine. Which is totally untrue. I know a few good doctors who have open minds who will tell you right out that there is little they can do, so try a homeopathic doctor, but I will tell you for the most part, doctors think they know it all, that only they are right and only big money medicine will help you.
I now know more people who have used natural medicine to cure many things not just cancer with great results, verses the people whom I have watched suffer and eventually die with modern supposed cures. My dad for instance was being treated for high blood pressure which he did not even have, diabetes, manic depression, Alzheimer's, and they wanted to add more drugs to the list that are stated they can kill you if used with some of these patients, he had more drugs in his suit case than clothes, most or all were not even relevant to his sickness and made him half crazy the last few years of his life. I seriously think all those meds are what caused the cancer in the first place, along with poor diet.
Something else to consider is why people have no right to choose there treatment. What about the rights of parents who have been taken away from choosing which treatment is used on there sick children? Does that not strike you funny that they are forced to undergo, chemo, radiation whatever the doctors say for their children, because the government has taken away the parents right to choose which medicine they want to try. I know some cases have been reported where parents took their children out of the country rather than subject them to the misery of modern cancer treatment. What should be a cure has become a curse. The things they do for money is incredible, and makes me just Ill to know so many people follow main stream right down the river without a paddle, because they said so.
So again I apologize if I seem crass, or insulting. I do not mean to be I state it like I see it, and how I have read it or lived it, and believe me between my mom, dad, cousins, family, myself, my hubby and children and grandchildren, I have read just about everything on the subject I could get my hands on. I only want people to open there mind and question thee authority, no one is always right, and people need to wake up to the abuses that are going on and getting worse everyday. It''s your rights they are taking away without you even knowing it. all because they can make a profit off of you.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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You need to do some more research before flapping your lips. The cases you refer to were all settled out of court. If you are referring to the Percy Schmeiser case there is much more to the story than we will know, on both sides of the argument.

 

[BlackBart]

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They call it Monsanto's revolving door. People from Monsanto go to work at the USDA and vice versa. Back and forth.
When a country relies on a coporation to do their own testing and findings on a new and controversial product it is like a Fox in the Hen house senario. Pretty sure the W.H.O. is in Monsanto's corner too

I read that a bunch of USA non Monsanto Farmers are suing Monsanto for crop pollution.

I think that was on Millions against Monsanto website.

Fodder corn is almost 100% GMO, alfalfa will be next, sugar beets (beet pulp & Table sugar) is already GMO, Canada has banned the use of GMO Flaxseed only because the EU wouldn't buy GMO flaxseed.

This was just sent to me.........GMO lawngrass
http://motherjones.com/environment/2011/07/usda-deregulate-roundup-gmo-tom-philpott


Its not just GMO's that bother most people I know, it is also the use of anitbiotics in livestock feed.

Might be a bit outdated but ............
The following countries have banned or restricted the import, distribution, sale, utilization, field trials and commercial planting of GMO’s:

•Africa: Algeria, Egypt

•Asia: Sri Lanka, Thailand, China, Japan, Phillipines

•Europe: The European Union, Norway, Austria, Germany United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Greece, France, Luxembourg, Portugal

•Latin America: Brazil, Paraguay

•Middle East: Saudi Arabia

•North America: Maryland has banned GE (genetically engineered) fish and North Dakota and Montana have filed bans on GE wheat. The Municipalities of Burlington, Vermont (declared a moratorium on GE food), Boulder, Colorado (bans on GE crops) and the City and County of San Francisco (urged the federal government to ban GE food) are the only towns or states to take some sort of stand against plants, animals, foods, crops and body products that are, or contain Genetically Modified Organisms.

NOTE: The U.S. government, and the FDA do not require anything Genetically Modified to be identified on ingredient lists. Genetically Modified foods and products are in widespread use and distribution throughout the U.S.

•Pacific: American Samoa, Cook Islands, Fiji, Kiribati, Federated States of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Australia, New Zealand

 

[TruGritCkn]

Monsanto makes many flavors of Glyphosate pesticides, so do other companies. But Monsanto developed it first, Roundup.
When I was in college in 1995 there was alfalfa growing in the experimental fields outside in the open country that had recombinant DNA inserted into the 4th generation inbred plant, which was flowering and being pollinated by visiting bees. Not just animal husbandry, but true GMO's are already out of our control.

 

[brownegger]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

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Contrary to what has been written here, the use of Pest Resistant corn has actually helped increase trendline corn yield in the USA.

I use traited corn for MY protection and the protection of my crop. With the use of the traited corn I no longer need to use highly toxic Organophosphates to control insect pests in my corn crop.

Who published the statistics for trend-line corn production? Just curious!

Organophosphates are awful pesticides I agree. Bt corn leaves many unanswered questions about health and environmental impacts...let alone the genetic integrity of other corn varieties. It's a toss up or a trade off, either way it is a losing battle. See many honeybees lately?

The truth is, if more people did more for themselves by growing gardens and being as self sufficient as possible. The reliance on production from commercial farming would be lessened greatly! This is happening, I watch farmers markets grow in popularity. I see more gardens than ever before...some better than others! If people wake up and take the action to care for themselves and understand the integrity and origin of their food......
It would eliminate much of the pressure for higher crop yields using pesticides of all manner, eliminate the "need" for GE, and people could become healthier. You could be healthier for a few reasons: being outside working, eating healthy nutritious food without harmful chemicals, and enjoy the mental satisfaction of a meal prepared by your own means. It really is a great concept for many people to take advantage of! I am a college student now and though my means of self sufficiency are limited, I manage okay!​

 

[TruGritCkn]

It is a good debate about what we are eating and what our animals are eating. I know I need to be more aware. I like food and eating and feeding others a lot. That is part of why I have chickens ( the other part is for them to eat grasshoppers). I couldn't tell you how may GMO's I eat or how many GMO's my animals eat per year. It would be interesting to know.

The Farm-to-table communities are hitting the target, check out this awesome market.

http://www.farmtotablecoop.com/

 

[RHRanch]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

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You need to do some more research before flapping your lips. The cases you refer to were all settled out of court. If you are referring to the Percy Schmeiser case there is much more to the story than we will know, on both sides of the argument.

I don't think there is call to be rude "flapping your lips". Why don't you just concentrating on sharing the specifics of what you know about the Percy Schmeiser case? (If you have any concrete facts) That would be more helpful.

Monsanto did win that case, mostly becuse it was ruled that there was use of patented Monsanto canola - and that how it got planted wasn't the issue. The issue was that Schmeiser should have known. Thing is, there is plenty of GMO corn contaminating other corn...sooo where does it end?​

 

[cassie]

People, including those who should know better, have trouble differentiating between correlation and causation. Meaning just because two things occur together, it does not mean one causes the other. This GMO flap is enough to keep people in a tizzy until something else comes along.

 

[sanctus7]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

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You need to do some more research before flapping your lips. The cases you refer to were all settled out of court. If you are referring to the Percy Schmeiser case there is much more to the story than we will know, on both sides of the argument.

Wow...try to be civil. We can agree to disagree. I have concerns for the environment and health with the usage of any chemical.
Introducing chemicals / herbicides etc. into our food supply and no studies by our FDA concerns me and others. Do you have any idea how long it takes for a medication or medical equipment to hit the market until the FDA approves it's usage? FOREVER.
GMO products: ZIP.
I will support farmers that farm with the same values that I have.
Nothing personal.​