HELP! I assisted a duckling before internal pipping!

[Hamudazahabi]

It is common for pullets to lay some weird eggs when they are getting started. Not every pullet does, but many do, and they usually go on to lay more normal eggs later.

You might find this article interesting:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/common-egg-quality-problems.65923/
It talks about many different kinds of weird eggs that happen sometimes.

Regarding the streak of dark color, I think it is just the normal brown pigment, but it's concentrated there instead of spread evenly over the egg. You could try washing it off with a damp cloth to check: blood will wash off, pigment will not come off unless you really scrub. Either way, it is not anything you need to worry about.

The shape of the egg is not a problem. Her later eggs will probably have more normal shapes, although there are some hens that regularly lay eggs of a shape that would be weird for most hens. I've seen extra-long and pointy, or round almost like a ball.

Hello,
Something weird is happening by the way. I noticed the cockerel crowing at midnight today and yesterday. I also heard from my parents that he crowed at 3 AM as well and made them wake up (I was sleeping and I didn't even notice )

So I don't really know why it wasn't sleeping. I have been noticing that these pullets and the cockerel are not sleeping through the night from the beginning. I didn't provide places like sticks for them to sleep on, because I am not sure how I will make one, but since long they used to just sleep on the floor normally, but I don't know if the ducks (they usually stay next to them but don't sleep because that's just how they are), I don't know if these ducks not sleeping is preventing them from sleeping or something.

 

[NatJ]

Hello,
Something weird is happening by the way. I noticed the cockerel crowing at midnight today and yesterday. I also heard from my parents that he crowed at 3 AM as well and made them wake up (I was sleeping and I didn't even notice )

So I don't really know why it wasn't sleeping. I have been noticing that these pullets and the cockerel are not sleeping through the night from the beginning. I didn't provide places like sticks for them to sleep on, because I am not sure how I will make one, but since long they used to just sleep on the floor normally, but I don't know if the ducks (they usually stay next to them but don't sleep because that's just how they are), I don't know if these ducks not sleeping is preventing them from sleeping or something.

If it is dark at night, chickens usually do not walk around or do much, but they certainly do wake up and make sounds, including cockerels crowing. This is especially common if a light shines on them or they hear some kind of noise.

If the ducks are moving around or making noise, yes that could wake the chickens up, but they would probably wake up sometimes anyway.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

If it is dark at night, chickens usually do not walk around or do much, but they certainly do wake up and make sounds, including cockerels crowing. This is especially common if a light shines on them or they hear some kind of noise.

If the ducks are moving around or making noise, yes that could wake the chickens up, but they would probably wake up sometimes anyway.

Yes. Yesterday the rooster crowed after I turned on the light. But it also crowed later when all the lights were off. I however noticed something quite scary which I have to worry about now. I saw some racoons in the forest nearby. I am not sure what I need to do exactly. I thought about keeping a light on there, which I heard prevents racoons from coming as they hate light, and I did do that but I am afraid it disturbs the chickens.

 

[NatJ]

Yes. Yesterday the rooster crowed after I turned on the light. But it also crowed later when all the lights were off. I however noticed something quite scary which I have to worry about now. I saw some racoons in the forest nearby. I am not sure what I need to do exactly. I thought about keeping a light on there, which I heard prevents racoons from coming as they hate light, and I did do that but I am afraid it disturbs the chickens.

For raccoons, probably the best solution would be a coop that is completely raccoon-proof, so it can't get in. Or a dog that will chase off raccoons or kill them, but not hurt the chickens & ducks.

If you can't do either of those, I don't know what else to suggest.

A light would probably "disturb" the chickens (they won't sleep well when it is light), but being killed by a raccoon would disturb them more, so it might be worth trying. I'm not sure.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

For raccoons, probably the best solution would be a coop that is completely raccoon-proof, so it can't get in. Or a dog that will chase off raccoons or kill them, but not hurt the chickens & ducks.

If you can't do either of those, I don't know what else to suggest.

A light would probably "disturb" the chickens (they won't sleep well when it is light), but being killed by a raccoon would disturb them more, so it might be worth trying. I'm not sure.

Long time ago raccoons killed a chicken I have (I think around 4-5 years ago), and I tested turning on the lights, the raccoon would immediately leave when I turn the light. After that I always kept the light on, and the raccoons never came there, but I didn't keep it too strong, so the chickens started sleeping where some light would come to them but not so bright or so dim. After that, no raccoons were spotted for a very long time. Now though, I saw many raccoons. I read about them and they hate noise and light, and loves trash, and also loves to eat these birds. I think one of my ducks, the one with a black spot on its head, would definitely attack if it came. It attacks me sometimes, and its bite is painful (fine @Miss Lydia , I called it a bite )

However, obviously a raccoon is also strong and smart. As for a good coop that it can't enter, I don't have one. I made a coop but it's not very good, and the chickens stopped sleeping inside it (they used to sleep inside it and I used to then close the door and lock it after they sleep, and even inside isn't fully safe because it's not very good)

As for a dog, I don't have one, but I have cats. Last time a weird animal that looks like a crocodile came in, and one of my cats stayed still infront of it and scared it, and I also came and kicked it away, and it never returned so far (This animal is available here in Malaysia, and there is a type of it in Indonesia which becomes very big and sometimes attacks malls and shops and eats what's in them, but in Malaysia we don't have that type, but a smaller one usually in forests and rivers)

 

[Hamudazahabi]

For raccoons, probably the best solution would be a coop that is completely raccoon-proof, so it can't get in. Or a dog that will chase off raccoons or kill them, but not hurt the chickens & ducks.

If you can't do either of those, I don't know what else to suggest.

A light would probably "disturb" the chickens (they won't sleep well when it is light), but being killed by a raccoon would disturb them more, so it might be worth trying. I'm not sure.

Also by the way, I opened that weird looking egg, and it had two yolks inside it. One big and one small. The yolk has weird look on it as if it's filled with lines and whiteness. I looked closely at the large yolk and noticed it is fertilized. (I saw the cockerel mating with this pullet few days before)

The pullet layed another egg yesterday as well, and the egg looks normal from inside. I didn't take it, as this time the pullet placed its egg by a tree and seems like it wants it, so I thought I would let kt sit on them for the first time in its life, but I don't know if the egg has a problem inside it like this first one. For now, I left the egg where the pullet placed it.

I attached the picture of the first egg from inside and the picture of the second egg.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

Also by the way, I opened that weird looking egg, and it had two yolks inside it. One big and one small. The yolk has weird look on it as if it's filled with lines and whiteness. I looked closely at the large yolk and noticed it is fertilized. (I saw the cockerel mating with this pullet few days before)

The pullet layed another egg yesterday as well, and the egg looks normal from inside. I didn't take it, as this time the pullet placed its egg by a tree and seems like it wants it, so I thought I would let kt sit on them for the first time in its life, but I don't know if the egg has a problem inside it like this first one. For now, I left the egg where the pullet placed it.

I attached the picture of the first egg from inside and the picture of the second egg.

Just now I left the door of the fence or basically the mesh, because I was carrying something. I came back after a very short while, and I found my pullet and cockerel on the table, and I saw another egg there. The cockerel suddenly got scared from me and jumped on the egg and broke it. I had to clean up, but after that I brought a normal egg from the store, and placed it next to that egg under the tree to encourage the pullet to sit, as it didn't see the egg getting broken when the cockerel did it. I also placed one of it's feathers I found on the floor on top of the egg. Now I left and the chicken is now near these two eggs (when I placed the egg it was away so it didn't see me, because I put food away so it ran there.)

 

[NatJ]

I didn't take it, as this time the pullet placed its egg by a tree and seems like it wants it, so I thought I would let kt sit on them for the first time in its life

I brought a normal egg from the store, and placed it next to that egg under the tree to encourage the pullet to sit, as it didn't see the egg getting broken when the cockerel did it. I also placed one of it's feathers I found on the floor on top of the egg. Now I left and the chicken is now near these two eggs (when I placed the egg it was away so it didn't see me, because I put food away so it ran there.)

Some pullets go broody and sit on eggs after they lay just a dozen or so eggs, but it is more common for a pullet to lay for a longer time before she goes broody. I can't say what your pullet will do.

Also by the way, I opened that weird looking egg, and it had two yolks inside it.

That definitely explains the long shape!

One big and one small. The yolk has weird look on it as if it's filled with lines and whiteness. I looked closely at the large yolk and noticed it is fertilized. (I saw the cockerel mating with this pullet few days before)

I don't think I've seen an egg with that much whiteness inside. It's interesting, but I don't know anything about it.

Long time ago raccoons killed a chicken I have (I think around 4-5 years ago), and I tested turning on the lights, the raccoon would immediately leave when I turn the light. After that I always kept the light on, and the raccoons never came there, but I didn't keep it too strong, so the chickens started sleeping where some light would come to them but not so bright or so dim. After that, no raccoons were spotted for a very long time. Now though, I saw many raccoons. I read about them and they hate noise and light, and loves trash, and also loves to eat these birds. I think one of my ducks, the one with a black spot on its head, would definitely attack if it came. It attacks me sometimes, and its bite is painful (fine @Miss Lydia , I called it a bite )

However, obviously a raccoon is also strong and smart. As for a good coop that it can't enter, I don't have one. I made a coop but it's not very good, and the chickens stopped sleeping inside it (they used to sleep inside it and I used to then close the door and lock it after they sleep, and even inside isn't fully safe because it's not very good)

As for a dog, I don't have one, but I have cats. Last time a weird animal that looks like a crocodile came in, and one of my cats stayed still infront of it and scared it, and I also came and kicked it away, and it never returned so far (This animal is available here in Malaysia, and there is a type of it in Indonesia which becomes very big and sometimes attacks malls and shops and eats what's in them, but in Malaysia we don't have that type, but a smaller one usually in forests and rivers)

I don't have any ideas here, but I'm glad you have been able to deal with the situation so far.

 

[Hamudazahabi]

Some pullets go broody and sit on eggs after they lay just a dozen or so eggs, but it is more common for a pullet to lay for a longer time before she goes broody. I can't say what your pullet will do.

Yeah, I also can't tell that yet. I think if I leave the eggs be, it will eventually probably get broody. I have been noticing that the cockerel stands near the eggs and when a duck comes near it sometimes attacks the duck, and also when I come near, it starts worrying and stays there.

That definitely explains the long shape!

Yeah, and another thing I noticed was that that when I put a flashlight on the egg, it shows a line in the middle that is like a cut. When I broke the egg open, it was cut on that line perfectly.

"I don't have any ideas here, but I'm glad you have been able to deal with the situation so far."
- NatJ
The quote here didn't work for some reason so I used the classic method.

It's okay, thank you for helping.

 

[NatJ]

Yeah, I also can't tell that yet. I think if I leave the eggs be, it will eventually probably get broody.

You might want to write the date on each egg as it is laid. Then you will be able to remove them if they get too old to hatch (2 weeks or so), rather than leaving them there to eventually rot.