Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[gilavina]

Yes.

sorry...I was trying to go add to it and had a helpful pup jump on my lap and hit some keys and didn't get the post finished. I edited and added the rest on the post above

 

[Hens and Roos]

Chilly and windy morning here.

Good luck with your up coming hatch Pink

Did you mention what they are? This thread moves fast so sometimes I miss things. Was hoping to get some up dated pictures of my group of 7 Marans chicks (they are now 10 weeks old and much to our dismay it looks like we have 5 boys and 2 girls in this group) posted today but it's been a long morning here already- ended up taking our DS(6) to the ER at 3 am as he was having problems breathing- he has a bad cold and cough which they diagnosed as croup. So he is resting on the couch

 

[pinkchick]

do you have the tray that came with the bator? If you do, then you will just stand them up on end and slide them into the grooves on the tray. If you don't have the tray...you will want to still stand them up on end...stand them up on the widest end, so its not super tall.. you might have to find a way to get them to stay standing....but try one first and see where it gets your humidity and if its still not where you want it, then add the second sponge, but I'm thinking 1 will probably be plenty. The sponges are kind of ingenious...when they stick up out of the water like that they soak up water and it releases the moisture quickly so it raises the humidity faster than just having a tray of water

Sorry, I got distracted playing with the chicks that have to move outside today.
Thanks...will put in a sponge in just a bit and see what happens.

Hens~ They are all Blue Copper and Splash Copper eggs.

Hoping for more Splash babies and wouldn't mind getting a Black Copper out of one of the Blue Copper eggs. Would love to see what kind of a Black Copper Lil' Bill will throw...in reference to how much copper and what type of body...though I believe the body type from LB and the girls that are in with him are going to be just fine. By the way the chicks that are in the brooder from last weeks hatch are looking I'm thinking I am going to like the type of LB's offspring very much.

I hope you son gets to feeling better very soon

 

[gilavina]

Sorry, I got distracted playing with the chicks that have to move outside today.
Thanks...will put in a sponge in just a bit and see what happens.

Hens~ They are all Blue Copper and Splash Copper eggs.

Hoping for more Splash babies and wouldn't mind getting a Black Copper out of one of the Blue Copper eggs. Would love to see what kind of a Black Copper Lil' Bill will throw...in reference to how much copper and what type of body...though I believe the body type from LB and the girls that are in with him are going to be just fine. By the way the chicks that are in the brooder from last weeks hatch are looking I'm thinking I am going to like the type of LB's offspring very much.

I hope you son gets to feeling better very soon

I hope it helps to get the humidity where you want it. I ran out and did chores quick. I picked up some more cross stitch canvas last night to cut down for hatcher dividers and have to quick hook up the water bucket and put in the metal trays I cleaned this a.m. then eggies will go in! I've got probably a tray and a half....I'm guessing I'll be lucky if 1/4 hatch because of the cold...but I gotta try!

 

[Arielle]

Hens-- I'm glad your son is back home this morning resting.

Pink-- would you explain about the blue making a black copper and can the blk copper breed true?Sorry, I'm still trying to understand color genes.

 

[ruth]

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Well Debbi I guess everything I said is a load of hooey to you... Apparently you know more than I do about these things... Sorry you have an ax to grind... hope you get over it someday... life is too short to get hung up on the small stuff.

Whoa girl! You came in here angry, and after me for something I brought to the forefront. I've been here for quite awhile now. I don't claim to know much of anything, but I DO know what I've seen and learned from here first hand! I also know what I have learned from others that have e-mailed me with the same problem! I have no axe to grind except for when it comes to denial of the problem. When I specifically ask people as to the combs of their birds, show them pics of my past experiences of results of others, and they deny ever seeing the problem in "their birds", well then, heck yes, I HAVE A PROBLEM when their eggs hatch out with these exact problems! When out of 9 orders of eggs and only 2 show no problems, the rest displayed Carnations, YES, I have a problem with that! This is a serious problem for those who would like to show their birds, or sell eggs/chicks to those who would. That was not my intention from the begininng, I sell NOTHING, so that is not my game or interest. Since the breed has become APA recognized, it would behoove everyone trying to sell chicks and hatching eggs to actually KNOW the problems with the Marans combs when it comes to DQs, wouldn't it??? I am not saying I know more than anyone in this regard, or in anything else. All I am saying is what I have had shown up here, and when I posted my concerns to the MCCUsa, I got a LOT of responses...albeit privately, some responded to the list. While I may or may not ever show a bird, I would like to think that I was breeding them to the best of my ability. So far, I can't seem to get any stock that displays these SOP qualities after a 2 year period, save for one hatch (the other being a single hatch so can't really tell from that). While I cannot say with an exact certainty the truthfullness of the lines I have bought into, I DO see a distinct pattern of a line, which I will stay away from at all cost in the future. While it may be "just a comb" to you, it is a DQ within the breed, and I will breed away from it! To me, this isn't "small stuff"; it is trying to ensure the breed isn't totally contaminated with this problem. As far as I can see, unless you have a truly pure and closed flock without ever having this problem; you WILL have this problem in the near future! Just saying...but if folks choose to ignore this, well then they can go out to their runs every morning and look at the Carnations combs too. This is all I going to say about the matter here on this thread. Evidently, the warning is being seen as coming from a "know nothing" type of person. If anyone has the problem and wants to e-mail me with their info, then fine...


Debbi - at this point it's pretty obvious to me and everyone else that you are referring to me and my birds. I haven't been on BYC in several months but as soon as I posted you asked me about carnation combs and it's been escalating ever since. I told you in that post that I had never even heard of carnation combs before (as being a problem in BCMs) and didn't have them in my flock. That was an honest answer. But apparently, as has happened repeatedly for the past four years, there's lot of innuendos and rumors and people alluding to things but no one has ever spoken directly or honestly with me or shown proof. In this newest case, I can honestly say this is the first I'm hearing about it. If there are so many people out there who supposedly got birds from me that had carnation combs why am I the last to hear of this? Why hasn't anyone contacted me - sent me pictures - let me know? I'm willing to do a close-up exam of each and every comb on every bird in my flock. I've worked hard to earn a good reputation and to have a great flock that lay beautiful eggs. I would certainly want to know if some genetic issue or abnormality was showing itself in their offspring. I also have not been on any of the Yahoo Marans groups in the past several months but from your post it looks like you've been conducting your own personal survey of people who have bought from me. Again, I would truly love to the see the names so that I can contact them and get more information. How do you think a problem will ever get solved if all anyone does is to spread rumors and no one actually contacts the breeder or even checks to see if the rumors are true? If I am to address a problem in my flock I need to know who bought from me and when. Was it in the past year or four years ago? My flock today is different than my flock 4 years ago. I'm not sure why you would be so angry if you've never even bothered to call me or contact me in any way. And slandering my name and reputation on an international internet forum certainly doesn't help. Did you buy from me and hatch chicks with carnation combs? If so, please say so and send me some information as to when and some photos if you have them. The same applies to anyone else who says they have. I'm in no way trying to "ignore this" I've just never heard this rumor before and boy have I heard some doosies over the past four years. And until the actual source speaks up and shows me proof - it is, like all the others, considered a rumor, gossip, slander. I'm amazed that for the past four years people can get on BYC or the Yahoo groups and "trash" my birds and make references to their "source" of their info but are NEVER AT LIBERTY to say where they got their information. How can this possibly help any breed or breeder?

 

[kathyinmo]

Hmmm, I need to get some updated pictures of my Marans. The are such good layers, and so docile. Love them.

 

[math ace]

Morning Vicki!

Math~ Those Ex. Leghorns sure are pretty. Are they as flightly as the white leghorn?

I don't know if they are as flighty. I have a pair of white leghorns that are 2 years old.
The one got bumble foot last Christmas and had to spend a few weeks in the house in cage. She is still flighty, BUT she is the FIRST to come and greet me for treats

I wouldn't want to make leghorns one of my breeding items because of their flightiness. However, you can't beat their egg laying production. When the marans and sussex are not laying, the leghorns are still producing.

I would be delighted to have just a couple of pullets from either color. However, those buff leghorns sure were nice on the eye.
I was really surprised by how good they looked.

 

[math ace]

I remember you posting you were looking for that lady...what was her name again?

Melinda Broach - in Franklin GA.
I've had no success making a connection with her.
My emails go unanswered. Her phone mail box is FULL.
I've left messages with her sister and fellow breeders who know her.

 

[gilavina]

Melinda Broach - in Franklin GA.
I've had no success making a connection with her.
My emails go unanswered. Her phone mail box is FULL.
I've left messages with her sister and fellow breeders who know her.

hmmm....maybe she has something going on, like a family situation or something that is keeping her from getting back to you? I hope she will get back to you before too long!