May trade for a new horse thoughts please?

[welsummerchicks]

I'm not sure you have to have a 1300 lb horse, by the rule it would be closer to 1500 lb.

But....it depends on what sort of riding you intend to do. Walking brief trail rides vs cantering, trotting over stiff terrain, advanced dressage, or jumping, galloping and 3 day eventing.

At 300 lb rider and tack, the horse's weight should be 1500 lb, that's the 20% rule.

Hey dry side I wish I could help, but I'm not from there, and I don't think a non local person is a good choice. A local person with good experience will know who all the pinhookers and sheisters are, and will probably have seen that horse around and know just what it 'do and don't do'.

I had a pretty money-wasting experience in your neighbor state of Oregon, though, LOL. I'll be old enough to have a drool bucket and I'll STILL remember that.

 

[arabianequine]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/grd/2057580616.html

So this is the only one that has responded recently the other day and said he was 1050 pounds and I am more then 20 % of his weight so he would be too small and good luck. It is a morgan I thought is was a mustang just remembered the M I guess. Are his legs to small for my weight on this horse? Why would this one not be ok at that weight....I know he is shorter. So I am assuming has to do with the legs or the preference of the owner with the weight rule.

Verses the Palimino Welsummerchicks and Rusty had mentioned this horse is taller but not much different in weight....I am just trying to understand better.

 

[welsummerchicks]

The legs of the horse are not shown in the picture.

for you, I'd skip the morgan based on the description.

 

[rockinpaints]

I would absolutely have a pre-purchase exam even if the horse was free (coming from someone who has raised horses for 20 years)

 

[arabianequine]

A vet visit will be done also on the horse I proceed with.

@ welsummer wow that will never happen finding a 1500 pound horse with everything else.

I will be doing whatever told to do by my trainer in an arena for quite sometime. I won't though do anything I am not comfortable doing. I need to learn how to ride first and be comfortable with the horse I choose before going further then a walk. I hope to be able to ride around on trails and such one day but just causally and never very fast probably, very long, or on rough terrain.

 

[pbjmaker]

Please explain the term "pinhooker" I have heard it before and not sure what it means. Apparently something bad

I did look up warm, cold, hot blooded today. Oh and appendix. Now my head is spinning...

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

I'm not sure you have to have a 1300 lb horse, by the rule it would be closer to 1500 lb.

But....it depends on what sort of riding you intend to do. Walking brief trail rides vs cantering, trotting over stiff terrain, advanced dressage, or jumping, galloping and 3 day eventing.

At 300 lb rider and tack, the horse's weight should be 1500 lb, that's the 20% rule.

I do not mean this to sound offensive, but by the time a female of this weight is in condition to jump, gallop, or 3-day event, I don't believe her weight will be a problem. This kind of riding requires top physical condition and as she achieves that, the weight will drop and no longer be an issue. A stoutly built 1200 lb gelding will probably be just right for her. While they are walking and jogging, the weight will not be too much and will begin to fall, so that when they are ready for more aggressive work her weight, now down, will no longer be a factor. QHs especially carry big men all day long. I myself was about 220 lbs when I was competing successfully at cutting and roping. I rode QHs who were 16 hands or so and weighed 1200 lbs or so. But of course we were not jumping. Jumping is a whole nuther thing entirely. But nothing the OP has posted suggests she wants to jump. The key is to buy a mature animal who has finished his growth and is at his peak strength. However, I have to in good conscience say that the weight DOES have to come down as she goes along. It is not fair to the animal for it not to. The only other suggestion I have in this regard is to look for a Percheron or Percheron cross. Originally they carried the knights and all their armor, so they are nice riding horses as well as drafters. I used to have a team of Perchies and Randy was a sweet riding horse as well as a great puller.

Again, I do not mean this to be offensive. I would not hurt your feelings for the world. I just want to help.


Rusty​

 

[patandchickens]

I still gotta say that in my experience, IN THE REAL WORLD (not in the world of mathematics), a sturdily and correctly built horse can often do just fine for light recreational riding (which seems all that's intended here) carrying more than 20% of its weight. Like a 15 h -ish "tank". I've just seen it WORK, often enough.

OTOH arabianequine if you really DO want at least a 1300-1500 lb horse, there is really no need to be emailing to ask weights -- that kind of horse will be *massive*, probably look like a draft horse or at least a VERY robust ranch-type "chunk". You can see from pics whether a horse is in the ballpark or not. If it looks like a regular normal riding horse, it isn't.

Pat

 

[michickenwrangler]

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I would try to go with a big Haflinger or a draft cross horse which you could find. Just be patient.

 

[welsummerchicks]

I think that's true for a lot of people, Rusty, but it's not true for everyone. Pat, I think a lighter smaller horse is possible, but as always 'it depends'. Depends on what they're doing in lessons, how much she is really going to ride. Some people would get a smaller horse, and then just say, 'oh heck, it doesn't matter if I do ONE six hour trail ride', and wind up doing way, way too much and having a sore backed lame horse.

A sore back can take 6 months to a year to heal, or it can also NEVER heal. There are no rules there. More saddle pads or a bigger saddle isn't the answer - that often makes the soreness much worse.

Some people wouldn't ever take their 'light riding horse' and do that six hour trail ride or that hour of jumping and galloping. Some would.

It's not always that easy to lose weight by having a horse and riding all by itself(usually it also requires other major lifestyle and diet changes), and many people don't EVER want to gallop or jump or make riding into a sport, they want it for pleasure and relaxation. Plus...sometimes taking off weight just isn't that easy for some people, no matter what they do. There may be other health problems, medications, it's not always 'so easy'.

Sure arab you could get a 1500 lb horse - a draft or draft cross. Keep checking here -

http://www.draftsforsale.com/

BUT....on Dreamhorse:

I'm going to say this is the best fit of any that have been posted by anyone here:

1603205

Cricket. Half Percheron, Half Quarter Horse mare. Beginner safe, black with 4 white ankles and a star and snip. 1450 lbs, 16 hands. 11 years old.

"Cricket is an amazingly quiet mare. She has many trail miles on her and would be great for a beginner rider looking for a quiet mount. Her gaits are very smooth and comfortable to ride with dressage potential. Please do not e-mail with questions, instead call Chuck @ 509-999-6565."

Full drafts are generally much cheaper than draft crosses(except for draft-QH crosses, which are usually priced very well)