Pigeon Talk

[WVduckchick]

This is my understanding as well. All pigeons carry only one color allele(hens) or two color alleles(cocks). There are only three colors, brown, blue(which is technically black), and ash-red. Brown least dominant and ash-red most dominant. Colors are sex linked. So far, simple. It gets complicated when you factor in the other alleles like spread, pale, dilute, recessive red, recessive white, almond, etc. that affect how the colors are expressed. Some of these are sex-linked and some not. So for example, Ron's white beautys are genetically brown, blue or ash-red.

Almond seems pretty complicated to me. There is quite a bit to be said about almond but one take away is that a bird may be genetically almond and not have the appearance(phenotype) of what most fanciers call 'almond'. Genetically almond squabs have short, sparse down - but so do pale and dilute squabs.

I DO NOT have a good grasp on almond but after reading the article WV linked to I wonder if a cock may carry one almond allele and based on the genetic color and other factors the bird may not look almond. So just looking at the appearance you couldn't say it must be a hen bc it doesn't look almond.
edit @Pyxis - I vote the silver is male. Almond is a dilution factor. Silver is a dilute 'color'.

I considered trying to write a “simple” article on this subject, but good grief, there isn’t much about it that is simple! And it seems like it should be, right? Trying to pull together data just kept getting more and more involved, so I gave up. Might try again later, but would need some time to devote my brain to it.

 

[backyard pigeons]

I considered trying to write a “simple” article on this subject, but good grief, there isn’t much about it that is simple! And it seems like it should be, right? Trying to pull together data just kept getting more and more involved, so I gave up. Might try again later, but would need some time to devote my brain to it.

if you do, I'll read it! I'm gonna try to figure out genetics sometime. Key word: try

Lol.

 

[backyard pigeons]

I know this thread is for pigeons but I figured I would tell you this. One of my serama eggs hatched!!! You may wonder why I'm so exited it's because what this baby chick went threw. First one of the eggs began to leak it was clearly rotten but since we were supposed to clean the incubator really soon we didn't remove the egg. Since it had been 3 days since they were supposed to hatch I stopped putting water in the incubator I was going to clean it out yesterday but I was to busy. It's a good thing I didn't clean it out because last night the chick hatched.View attachment 1671890

Very cool! It's so cute. Are you still going to sell your pigeons? And then get modonas?

 

[Hokum Coco]

I'm gonna try to figure out genetics sometime.

That is one subject that as much as I have tried can "GLAZE ME OVER" good luck.

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

Check this build out!

How cool!

I know this thread is for pigeons but I figured I would tell you this. One of my serama eggs hatched!!! You may wonder why I'm so exited it's because what this baby chick went threw. First one of the eggs began to leak it was clearly rotten but since we were supposed to clean the incubator really soon we didn't remove the egg. Since it had been 3 days since they were supposed to hatch I stopped putting water in the incubator I was going to clean it out yesterday but I was to busy. It's a good thing I didn't clean it out because last night the chick hatched.View attachment 1671890

Oh wow! Determined lil chick!

That is one subject that as much as I have tried can "GLAZE ME OVER" good luck.

X2

 

[backyard pigeons]

That is one subject that as much as I have tried can "GLAZE ME OVER" good luck.

It is so cunfusing. Thanks, I'll need it.

 

[CCUK]

I considered trying to write a “simple” article on this subject, but good grief, there isn’t much about it that is simple! And it seems like it should be, right? Trying to pull together data just kept getting more and more involved, so I gave up. Might try again later, but would need some time to devote my brain to it.

Me + genetics =

 

[sourland]

Me + genetics = View attachment 1672298

Me too. The problem is that although we see the phenotype the genotype may be unknown to us.

 

[CCUK]

Me too. The problem is that although we see the phenotype the genotype may be unknown to us.

 

[Pyxis]

Me + genetics = View attachment 1672298

Duck genetics I have down. Pigeon genetics is a whole new ballgame, lol.