Pomeranian Goose Breed Thread

[plantcityhomestead]

The bean or the tip of the beak in an orange beaked geese is not orange like the majority of the beak. On all orange beaked geese (embdens, toulouse, american buffs, pilgrims, white chinese, romans, and sebastopols) are described in Oscar Grow's book Modern Waterfowl Magagement and Breeding Guide as having beans that are "white flesh tinted, whitish flesh-colored, white flesh colored, whitish-flesh-colored, white flesh-colored, white, and whitish flesh-colored respectively. The pink tip you are seeing is the orange norm. I bred pommeranians for a number of years and my main breeding gander was a pink recessive bird while all the hens I had were orange dominant birds. I kept young hens fathered by him to breed back knowing that the daughter would carry the recessive and if passed along it would couple with the gander's and there would be pink beaked descendants. Those goslings who did not get the recessive from the mother developed orange beaks. Not once did I ever see the a beak go from orange to pink.

roboboy, I am so glad you are here to help us. My goslings are my first poms and I have a lot to learn. I am glad to hear that I can still use my orange beaked birds for breeding with pink birds. I am pretty sure there is a recessive since one of them is a great pink, unfortunately, I think that one is a goose. Do you know if the beak color is carried in the male or female?

cindy

 

[1MrsMagoo]

Well, this is as good a reason as any to bump this thread........it finally arrived: I got my NPIP number today after waiting 6 weeks for it to get here! I am officially NPIP certified and after checking the code numbers against the breeder list for my state, it appears I am also the only NPIP breeder in Louisiana with Pomeranian geese.

I emailed the state vet and asked for some of the VS 9-3 forms I will be required to send along with any hatching eggs I sell. Even if these take another 6 weeks I'll be ready in plenty of time for shipping eggs this year.

Next, I am off to the postal service website to order some free Priority Mail shipping boxes in the sizes I will need. Then on to the packing material website for bubble and foam wrap and heat packs.

Finally, I have the biggest task of all ahead of me later this month: Sorting the geese and making breeding pairs of trios from the ones I plan on using and moving them to separate pens. Oh boy, I am getting excited!

 

[nagid]

hello cindy, thanks for the reply, i was told he was a year old back in the spring of this year 2012. all the poms i have seen have the same color on their heads and backs but this guy has a tan or buff colored head and a grey back. i will try to find the seb site you talked about. thanks again

 

[plantcityhomestead]

Well, this is as good a reason as any to bump this thread........it finally arrived: I got my NPIP number today after waiting 6 weeks for it to get here! I am officially NPIP certified and after checking the code numbers against the breeder list for my state, it appears I am also the only NPIP breeder in Louisiana with Pomeranian geese.

I emailed the state vet and asked for some of the VS 9-3 forms I will be required to send along with any hatching eggs I sell. Even if these take another 6 weeks I'll be ready in plenty of time for shipping eggs this year.

Next, I am off to the postal service website to order some free Priority Mail shipping boxes in the sizes I will need. Then on to the packing material website for bubble and foam wrap and heat packs.

Finally, I have the biggest task of all ahead of me later this month: Sorting the geese and making breeding pairs of trios from the ones I plan on using and moving them to separate pens. Oh boy, I am getting excited!

Congratulations, Mrs Magoo! You're official. Hope the geese are productive come spring.

I am dreading the sorting process. The geese definitely have their friends that they hang out with all the time and free range as a flock. It is going to be difficult for me to put them in separate pens. And that doesn't even begin to match my concerns about making appropriate matches. When you make those decisions, would you post the pairs and trios, and explain why you made those decisions. It would be really helpful.

cindy

 

[Oregon Blues]

Congratulations, Mrs Magoo for the NPIP certification. It lets the world know that you are serious.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

Thanks Oregon: I am serious about doing things correctly, especially when it comes to the geese. Also, my APA Standard of Perfection is due to arrive next week, so that should help me when selecting breeders for the upcoming season.
We just were given 9 sheets of OSB and a pile of lumber that were left-overs on a room addition where we installed the trim, tile, and wood flooring. Along with the 4x4's and roofing we already have, this should be enough to get my new goose quarters underway: All I need is things to slow just enough that the husband, truck, and tools can stay home on weekends! It'll be close, but we should get them done in time to get the sorting completed and everyone paired off or moved into the new breeding coop.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

I was out taking a few photos this afternoon and managed to get a decent photo of the oldest juvenile gander I hatched from Kawonu's eggs. I call this guy Derby.



I just couldn't resist this shot: Wonky was grooming and it looked like a game of goose twister at times...(note the color of his bill/feet compared to that of his younger siblings behind him- while theirs are far too orange, I think his is the recessive pink we have talked so much about)

 

[Nyssa03]

Hi Mrs Magoo - We have Pomeranians that we got from Hollderreads, and are thinking by next year we may want to try to get a few more. I think I read that you will have eggs for hatching? I would like more info if you have time about obtaining hatching eggs. We did buy a incubator this year -- after the fact -- our Poms laid lots of eggs, but nested side by side and as soon as two hatched they were both off their nests -- so only two goslings. It may be a couple of years before we have enough pasture ready for more.--- but any info you can give me so I can start planning would be much appreciated.
thanks,
Patsy

 

[1MrsMagoo]

Hi Mrs Magoo - We have Pomeranians that we got from Hollderreads, and are thinking by next year we may want to try to get a few more. I think I read that you will have eggs for hatching? I would like more info if you have time about obtaining hatching eggs. We did buy a incubator this year -- after the fact -- our Poms laid lots of eggs, but nested side by side and as soon as two hatched they were both off their nests -- so only two goslings. It may be a couple of years before we have enough pasture ready for more.--- but any info you can give me so I can start planning would be much appreciated.
thanks,
Patsy

Patsy,

If you have Poms from Holderread's then I assume you have Gray Saddlebacks? If so, OregonBlues on here also has some of his grays and is willing to sell hatching eggs. I only have the Buff Saddlebacks at this point. I'd be happy to sell you eggs, but realize you would end up with some split birds (see post #20 in this thread).

I have one mature pair and possibly 3-4 juvenile pairs heading into breeding season. The youngest of my spring goslings is just getting their adult feathers, so I plan on pairing them off in the next couple of weeks. I do have 4 people on my waiting list, but I got 51 eggs out of my mature goose alone last season, so should be able to fill quite a few orders. PM me if you'd like further details, or Oregon if you want Gray eggs instead: It doesn't matter who you buy eggs from as long as they are from a Pomeranian!

A lot of folks have issues with letting mama goose hatch the eggs similar to yours. It seems that the second their were babies, the ladies left the nests and the eggs still in it. If you are going to incubate the goose eggs please follow the link below, as I think it sums up the process quite well. All temperatures are quoted in Celsius, but google can get the Fahrenheit equivalent for you. Also, check out the thread Here We Go Again----I'm Hatching More Goslings started by Iain Utah here in the goose section. There is some good information in that thread as well.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/491013/goose-incubation-hatching-guide-completed

If you need any help, post in the hatching gosling thread or here and I am sure that somebody will throw you a life preserver.
Rhonda

 

[Nyssa03]

Hi Rhonda - thanks so much for the info -- I'm not sure what "PM" means? just learning the system
thanks again -- Patsy