She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

I completely see and support the red stance as well, I just choose not to do it. I'm hatching fairly frequently, and between broodies and my incubator I have more chickens than I need for myself. Aside from the BCM I am keeping for myself, all of my hatches are to be sold. AHs that end up disfigured, or ultimately don't make it take up a lot of time and emotional energy, and handicapped chicks don't sell. I don't have room for special needs. I want healthy, strong chicks for myself and my customers. The euthanization is the hardest part. The loud cheepers are the ones that usually don't make it, so much so that in my instance that is a sign of a needed cull. Euthanizing a fluffy chick is the worst part of keeping chickens, so I try to minimize the circumstances where that will be a possibility, and for me that means no AH

I assist and know that I shouldn't. almost every one dies or I cull as soon as I know there not going to make it for sure.A weak chick is more likely to get sick and bring the sickness to the rest of the flock. separation for illness is near impossible flies and other insects spread illness rapidly through the whole flock. all the text books say don't do it no matter how bad you want to. form the industry stand point you're right from the heart stand point the girls are . me I 'm stuck in the middle . I'm pretty sure my barren EE was an assist .I wonder how the other assist will turn out maybe I should be marking them but have hatched so many this year already the count must be some where around 250 don't know . sold fifty early April my grower's are full . I'm constantly working on making more space .somebody tell me again why I'm doing this can't remember some time.
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:celebrate I just got a message from the call duck breeder!! I'm officially on the pre-order list for spring!! 1dozen eggs, 50/50 white and grey. And I'm getting express 1 day shipping after this last experience. I'm sooooo so so excited! Maybe I'll show them next summer!

I'm reading an article about hatching and the author just said "never" use a forced air incubator as a hatcher. Always use a still air, separate hatcher. Because it will hold humidity more efficiently, it's better for the eggs as they hatch and after hatch, and it's less risky for bacterial infections. This is the first time I'm reading this. How many use a separate hatcher and is it still air or forced? Just curious.
 
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I just got a message from the call duck breeder!! I'm officially on the pre-order list for spring!! 1dozen eggs, 50/50 white and grey. And I'm getting express 1 day shipping after this last experience. I'm sooooo so so excited! Maybe I'll show them next summer!

I'm reading an article about hatching and the author just said "never" use a forced air incubator as a hatcher. Always use a still air, separate hatcher. Because it will hold humidity more efficiently, it's better for the eggs as they hatch and after hatch, and it's less risky for bacterial infections. This is the first time I'm reading this. How many use a separate hatcher and is it still air or forced? Just curious.

There are a few factors in that statement that should be considered one at a time.

Regarding humidity: A forced air hatcher can hold humidity every bit as well as a still air hatcher. The only time still air would be beneficial is when the hatcher is open, but that can be mitigated by turning off the fan/hatcher while the door or lid is open.

Regarding bacteria: Stagnant air is more likely to result in perpetually moist areas. Consider bacteria as you would mildew. What is the first area of a shower to show mildew, the far corners or the area nearest the fan?

Not mentioned is the effect of the breeze of a forced air on the membrane and hatching poult. If the incubator humidity is too low, a fan will make it worse by accelerating the drying of membranes. But if the humidity level is fine, a fan will help the chicks dry after hatching.
 
know the felling. one of the two I assisted this weekend ,was dead this morning and it was the stronger of the two. the other is getting weaker looks like. I had both drinking don't about eating. this one was getting around good . even though I move them around in the incubator I still get some sticky ones. I don't think the other one will last the day. looking forward to building another Incubator .big score Friday mini wine cooler with two fans in two compartments with a digital temp. read . won't cool might try to fix it first just to play but don't need it . and already have a bread oven that's huge with oven on top and riser on the bottom . all stainless steel in and out but it weighs ton. wherever it ends up it stays.

So you are purple too...
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Keep us posted on the diy build and I hope you will document it as you go.

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I just got a message from the call duck breeder!! I'm officially on the pre-order list for spring!! 1dozen eggs, 50/50 white and grey. And I'm getting express 1 day shipping after this last experience. I'm sooooo so so excited! Maybe I'll show them next summer!

I'm reading an article about hatching and the author just said "never" use a forced air incubator as a hatcher. Always use a still air, separate hatcher. Because it will hold humidity more efficiently, it's better for the eggs as they hatch and after hatch, and it's less risky for bacterial infections. This is the first time I'm reading this. How many use a separate hatcher and is it still air or forced? Just curious.

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Those are some beauties! I want to do some with you, so I sure hope we can work it out!!
 
So you are purple too...
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Keep us posted on the diy build and I hope you will document it as you go.


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Those are some beauties! I want to do some with you, so I sure hope we can work it out!!

`more like black and blue. Incubator construction is just in collection stage now. My pullets will start laying in about three weeks and I'm not ready new coop with laying boxes in the works now. but Its raining here. I'm goofing off.
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this is what I'm doing .busy afternoon though, son has a doctors apt. at 4:30 not looking forward to that .Huges is slow with the rain . makes for hard surfing and they took my dating adds off here.
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Good morning, BTW
Oh ya...I do remember reading that....ok, I deserved that one.

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I just got a message from the call duck breeder!! I'm officially on the pre-order list for spring!! 1dozen eggs, 50/50 white and grey. And I'm getting express 1 day shipping after this last experience. I'm sooooo so so excited! Maybe I'll show them next summer!

I'm reading an article about hatching and the author just said "never" use a forced air incubator as a hatcher. Always use a still air, separate hatcher. Because it will hold humidity more efficiently, it's better for the eggs as they hatch and after hatch, and it's less risky for bacterial infections. This is the first time I'm reading this. How many use a separate hatcher and is it still air or forced? Just curious.
My incubator is my hatcher. I just don't do staggered hatches. Personally, I find it to be a bunch of BS. It's a matter of opinion that is thrown out there as fact. We all do it from time to time because we are so certain that what we do or think is the right way and we forget to give the opinion as a matter of opinion and not a certainty. I feel the same way when I see the preaching of "Never open the incubator during a hatch because you will compromise all the eggs that have pipped."
 

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