The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

Would someone give me a definition of a pure chicken?  Easter Eggers are not a pure bred chicken, correct?  But ameraucana and [COLOR=444444]Araucana are?  If I have a flock of different colored Orpington hens and roosters and the hens have chicks, are they all pure?  [/COLOR]


yes, if your flock are all purebred but blue black and splash, they are still purebred orps, kind of like labs, they come in black yellow and chocolate and come from the same parents. Color accepted for showing as you know, Blue black buff and white. Splash is just a color, it is what makes blue when bred to black. the reason they are not recognized for showing is because not enough people have bred and exhibited them for however many years it takes to prove them to the APA. its possible they will be an accepted color soon enough, just have to get them shown. the Imported orps are called imported because the parent stock was recently imported from other countries and may be different than the American type. Other countries have different standards and opinions on what an orp should look like or be verses what the Americans think they should be. there are many other colors in other countries that are accepted, they have been around quite a long time. Over here, we have not had certain colors very long so they are not accepted for showing. a breed is always considered purebred until you toss some other breed in the mix and then it, likes dogs, becomes a mutt. You can work on a project and use another breed to perhaps intro another color or pattern but they have to be bred back to purebred orps to regain their type for so many generations before being considered purebred again. clear as mud?? ;)
 
Thanks!!!!! Clear as Crystal!! I've made up my mind. I am getting Chocolate Orpingtons and Black Orpingtons. Already have Buffs but will keep all separate. I know the cross with a Chocolate Roo and Black hen, if I decide to mix anything. But what if I used a Black Roo with a Chocolate Hen? Is that a no no? Get something a little crazy? Or acceptable?
 
Thanks!!!!! Clear as Crystal!! I've made up my mind. I am getting Chocolate Orpingtons and Black Orpingtons. Already have Buffs but will keep all separate. I know the cross with a Chocolate Roo and Black hen, if I decide to mix anything. But what if I used a Black Roo with a Chocolate Hen? Is that a no no? Get something a little crazy? Or acceptable?
I asked a simular question a few days ago. This helped and I have been reading. SO, anyone, if I'm wrong please correct me. There is more than one way to have Chocolate and it can make a difference when mixing colors. Also some of the the chocolates, it make a difference if it is the rooster or the hen. The rooster needs 2 chocolates to be chocolate and a hen only needs one. I over simplified but it's not easy. Even after everything I read, most mixes seem to turn out black according to the calculator.

There is a chicken color calculator that is very helpful. Someone posted this a few pages back.
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#pluginTree
 
Thanks!!!!! Clear as Crystal!! I've made up my mind.   I am getting Chocolate Orpingtons and Black Orpingtons. Already have Buffs but will keep all separate.  I know the cross with a Chocolate Roo and Black hen, if I decide to mix anything.  But what if I used a Black Roo with a Chocolate Hen?  Is that a no no?  Get something a little crazy?  Or acceptable?  


it will be fine, the chocolates actually need a black mixed in to keep the color nice and dark. just make sure when you sell any black offspring that people know it may be split for chocolate, those that are breeding the chocolates can best help you figure out how to set up a breeding pen with which colors of black and choc and when to add in the black and why.
 
Yes I saw the chart. Thank you. You are in COLD Country. I'm in Florida!!!! 82 here today. One of my best friends lives in Alaska but only in the summer months.
Hi Neighbor
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I am in South GA, almost on the Fl border.
Are you looking for Large Fowl chocolates? If so, take a look at the website link in my signature or PM me. I have the LF chocolates as well as other colors.
 

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