You have English Orpingtons? And you got them locally? Can I ask from where? I'm always having to incubate eggs to get any decent orpington. I went to a farm swap this weekend and it seems like everyone only has production breeds or silkies.The lady who I got the Eng Orps from has a few running around. I offered to buy them, and she very jokingly told me "PFFT! Guess again Buddy!" Though she is keeping an eye out for me. Her and I have very similar taste in birds, and she knows it too. She also knows how to get in my darn pockets lol.