I didn't get my question answered, but I guess that's what I get for posting this thread. Honestly, rats are just the same as squirrels, yet the squirrels live in trees. If people kill rats, what's wrong with squirrels? They are a BIG pest around here. They chew wires, cause blackouts, disable cars by chewing/nesting in them threw the bottom, and nest in attics where they chew insulation. (and also grow bacteria with their droppings while they're in there) I don't like killing anything, which is why my dad would be doing the shooting. When this problem arrose, of course the first thing in my mind was to fix the problem, but because of the situation it's not going to be easy. The chickens are kept in a chain-link dog kennel, with 2 feet of hardware cloth burried around it. The squirrels are obviously small enough to slip right through the holes, and me and my family can not afford to fix the chicken pen to secure it from something as small and agile as squirrels. They also destroy the plants. They dug up and killed the orchids worth 200$ my mom bought, (Which she grows in the unscreened patio, and it is not going to get screened anytime soon) and are also stripping down my mulberry tree of it's leaves, which I need to grow silkworms for my reptiles. So, back to the title now?